Happy hour social party and Gay Marriage debate

Our debate starts at 7:00 P.M. If you'd like to come early, join us for a happy hour social party from 6:00 to 7:00 P.M. The debate will commence at 7:00 P.M. This will take place on Thursday June 27th at the Moose Lodge near the corner of Aero Drive and Ruffin Rd. in Kearny Mesa. We will debate whether "Gay marriage should be legal in the United States"? We will have 2 experts on the issue presenting their views along with 3 seated liberals and 3 seated conservatives on a panel. Please join us and be part of the audience. We will have a segment of audience participation where you can raise your hand and speak over a microphone to everyone in the room - or you can just observe. If you plan to attend, please RSVP.

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  • A former member
    A former member

    Sorry for the late post of this. It is streaming live right now. I am sure will be worth the time to watch. http://www.adl.org/supremecourtreview/

    July 2, 2013

  • Matthew P.

    Hi Everyone, Does anyone know when the debate is going to be rebroadcast this Tuesday? I know it's going to be on 89.1 but I've been unable to determine the time.

    Thanks

    July 1, 2013

    • Bill D.

      Matthew - KNSJ is a start-up station and will begin broadcasting in July 4th. The previous debates have been recorded for future broadcast. I will post when the schedule is set up. -Bill

      July 1, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    The crux of the matter is this: One side says marriage is about the rights of children to know and be raised by their own mom and dad. The other side says marriage is about equal rights and the feelings of adults. I have two comments: 1) is a right being denied if the two classes of people, homo- and heterosexuals, are not similarly situated with regard to marriage? If the purpose of marriage is to connect children to their moms and dads, then no one is being denied rights; we are simply discriminating between two different things. 2) The person on the side of redefining marriage said that kids get what they get in terms of parents. Wouldn’t it be a good idea to have a cultural institution that encourages and supports more kids getting the optimal arrangement? That’s what marriage is supposed to accomplish, but now that we’ve made it optional, temporary and genderless, it is not and will not be doing that job. Result: more kids living in “alternative” families i.e. in poverty.

    1 · June 29, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I enjoyed the debate, but agree with comments about the moderator. He should have stayed in the background.

    1 · June 29, 2013

  • Rob M.

    Lessons learned from this debate-
    Set a start and end time.
    8 speakers are too many. Each speaker has to know the topic thoroughly!
    Ask the moderator to moderate rather than interject his opinion.

    1 · June 29, 2013

  • Karen G.

    Is there a link where we can see the names and information about the speakers? I missed some of the names. Perhaps include where they work, if the provided that at the debate. Thanks!

    June 28, 2013

  • Karen G.

    Thanks James. I agree with you about the Moderator. He really did get on my nerves with his comments. They need a new one. And I totally agree about Dr. Morse. She's terrific.

    June 28, 2013

  • James C.

    Lastly, next time you get a debate like this together I would prefer that you avoid the panel format and go with either a two man or four man debate format (either one or two on each side - think of it like singles or doubles in tennis). This would allow for less (hopefully) red herrings and derailments from everyone going off in their own direction. I highly recommend Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse. She had the best presentation. She had the best answers to the questions, and she answered directly all questions that were posed to her without equivocation. I think she could have taken on all four of her interlocutors all by herself.

    1 · June 28, 2013

  • James C.

    What I found horrendous was the moderator. The moderator could not stop interjecting his own opinions, beliefs, comments, etc. into the debate and it was clear that he held a particular view. I think the moderator had too much of an ego that he couldn't just sit there and do his job, which is to MODERATE (i.e., keep time, make sure everyone follows the pre-determined rules of debate). He was lousy. He used up precious time that all the debaters could have used to flush out more details and answer questions that were posed. This person that was asked to moderate should never be asked to moderate a debate. Next time you need a moderator get someone else. All you need is someone who can watch a clock and make sure people are respectful and follow the rules. If you ego won't allow you to do just that, then bow out (but perhaps the ego won't let you do that either). :-)

    1 · June 28, 2013

  • James C.

    As far as many debates go it was okay. It wasn't that bad, but it wasn't that good either. It wasn't that bad in the sense that at least many of the arguments (using that term in its classical sense) against redefining marriage were at least give a chance to be heard, and it was good to see what the proponents of redefinition had to say. The stark contrasts between both sides was clearly evident, and it was clear to me at least that there wasn't much argument coming from the proponents of redefinition while they did have a lot of comments that appealed to the emotion.

    1 · June 28, 2013

  • John K.

    I had to leave early. How did the VOTE go?

    June 28, 2013

  • Karen G.

    It is incredible how much more real these questions and arguments seem when you hear them presented and discussed by real people as opposed to reading them online or just hearing sound bites on the news. This format works perfectly to present both sides of an issue, allow for friendly back and forth discussion, and allow the visitors a chance to ask questions and comment. Great job!

    June 27, 2013

  • Karen G.

    Very informative and lively discussion on gay marriage. I loved the format, with four people on each side of the debate sharing their own perspectives and information. I truly enjoyed it. Can't wait until the next one!

    June 27, 2013

  • Jackie H.

    just found out about your group and am unavailable tonight

    June 27, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Something came up and I have to cancel.

    June 26, 2013

  • cplato

    Schedule conflict

    June 26, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Would love to see a ruling on DOMA and Prop 8 before Thursday or at least before end of SCOTUS final week of this session.
    According to the NYT - more decisions on pending cases will be issued tomorrow around 10 am.

    June 24, 2013

  • James D. B.

    Check out our June 27th promo video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nanyaVHMvqw

    June 23, 2013

  • cplato

    This will be my first time with your club and it sounds interesting. The topic is very timely.

    June 13, 2013

  • David G.

    I know the legal issues reasonably well and can serve on the panel if needed.

    June 2, 2013

  • Karen G.

    I hope we can discuss this topic as part of this debate as well: "Should the United States pass an amendment to the U.S. Constitution defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman."

    June 2, 2013

  • Karen G.

    I'd like to be one of the debaters, if you'll consider that.

    June 2, 2013

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