"It is not the mountains we conquer, but ourselves." Edmond Hillary
We are a group of volunteer organizers. Our goal is to bring people together for a wide variety of positive experiences at our favorite locations. From casual walkers to trail runners and backpackers, our members love being in the outdoors and doing activities in groups; especially hiking, snow shoeing and scrambling. Enjoy our hills responsibly, the outdoors can be a hazardous place.
Organizer Abilities and Responsibilities
Our organizers are not paid guides and should not be treated as such. We recommended that members follow our organizers directions but ultimately your safety is your own responsibility and all of your actions and inactions should be done with a degree of caution.
Our organizers are only responsible for setting a date, time, place, and giving some details about the trip. Other responsibilities such as route plans, timing, and pace can be set and guided by the organizer but are not to be followed blindly or without common sense. Keeping the group together is everyone's responsibility, do not rely on the organizer to do it alone.
Once you leave the meeting point, group safety is everyone's concern. Please watch out for each other.
Our organizers have the ability to refuse any member before or at the event. They also have the ability to create their own Going List with their own tailored requirements. Having a profile photo or having already met are examples of these types of requirements. Please review the event details carefully if you are not moved from the Waiting List in a day or two.
Our organizers have the ability to set restrictions. Allowing members to bring guests, kids, or dogs and setting a group size are some examples. Please respect all such restrictions.
Our organizers are asked to mark attendance and record them online for the future viewing of all organizers.
As a member of The VanHikers you are responsible for your own safety and well being. Other responsibilities include:
-having adequate equipment for the event
-having adequate food and water for the event
-being self sufficient (in case you get separated, excludes carpooling)
-being responsible with your RSVP's
-following trail etiquette
-please comment when leaving the group (Yes I do read them!)
-please email those who offer rides directly if possible to arrange your ride
-please provide your cell number to the driver
-please offer $5 to $6 per hour of driving, regardless of how many riders there are, offer more for logging roads and 4x4 terrain
-be early at your meeting point with the driver because they are not expected to wait for you if you are not there at the agreed time
-please give cash for the round trip at the start of the trip and don't wait to be asked
-do not ask for or expect a refund if you find a different ride home
-please bring runners to change into at the end of the event and a bag for muddy footwear
-please post ride offers in the comments section of the event, include number of spots, your starting city and route
-only offer rides in the comments if you are on the attending list
-email ride offers to the organizer if you are on the waitlist
-please post when your vehicle is full and who you are taking, update as necessary
-feel free to refuse anyone for any reason, including not having cash
-please understand that offering rides can be rewarding, and also frustrating
-try to have multiple riders meet at the same location if possible
-please do not wait more than 5 minutes for late riders, if you wait at all; others will have to wait for you at the trailhead
-phone riders when cancelling, emailing them may be too slow for them to find another ride
Please as organizers and members:
-keep to group sizes that don't cause a trail or other hikers to suffer
-when hikers who are not in your group catch up and want to pass, let them pass everyone smoothly, stepping aside as the trail allows and notifying those in front of you
-warn others in your group when encountering oncoming mountain bikes or equines, and how many
-do not damage or alter the environment, including littering, building cairns or blazing trails
-do not stray from the trail into areas sensitive to erosion
-do not shortcut switchbacks, it leads to land erosion and lost hikers
-do not venture into restricted areas or onto private properties
-obey all park rules and signage
-keep language kid friendly on a kid friendly hike
-avoid crude, sexist, racist or otherwise offensive remarks
-avoid excessive complaining
-absolutely refrain from complaining about the organizer or anyone present during the event
-always be aware of where you are, where you have gone, and where you are going
-be aware if you are last of the group
-regroup at all junctions and viewpoints unless directed otherwise
-when wearing snow shoes step aside for crampon wearers
-step aside for backpackers when day hiking
-horse play is unsafe in forests
-let others know if you need to turn around or go back on your own
Responsible RSVPing and Member Etiquette
Please as organizers and members:
-refrain from RSVPing YES to two events at the same time, even in two different meetup groups
-do not attend an event unless on the event's Going list
-only RSVP after reading all of the event details
-only RSVP to an event if you know you are capable of doing it
-refrain from making any negative or sarcastic comments in the comments section of any event, repeating offenders will be removed/banned
-if you have any concerns regarding an event, email the event organizer; if unsatisfied, email the group organizer
-cancel well before the event if you are not sure you can make it when there are people on the event's Waiting list
-cancel well before the event when you cannot make it
-always provide an emailed apology or explanation to the organizer for late cancelations and accidental NO SHOWS
-unexplained late cancellations can be considered a NO SHOW, even if you change your RSVP
-some events are only for members without NO SHOWS
-repeated NO SHOWS can result in a member being banned
Always Come Prepared
-leave a route plan with a friend, include return time, if you have overnight gear, vehicle description and license plate (SAR does not have immediate access to meetup information)
-have the right footwear for your hike, if unsure ask
-having adequate food, water and supplies is essential to your own survival
-review the 10 essentials when packing and think about where you are going and what you would need if you were accidentally separated from the group, disoriented, and had to spend the night in the wilderness
-don't think it won't happen to you
Leave No Trace
-plan ahead and prepare
-travel and camp on durable sufaces
-dispose of waste properly
-leave what you find
-minimize campfire impacts
-be considerate to other visitors
-more information can be found at LNT.org
Hiking Can be Dangerous
Hiking is an inherently dangerous activity. It is possible to be seriously injured or killed on many routes taken by this group; it has happened in the past. Individual route descriptions may leave you with the impression that there is little difficulty or danger involved but this is not always true. People approaching and scaling mountains are advised to do so with a healthy degree of caution. Anyone ascending mountains must realize that their safety lies in their own hands. You must use your own judgement to evaluate the safety of your route and situation based on your observations and abilities. Do not depend on the information provided by the organizer to keep you safe. Anyone following route descriptions provided by this site or an organizer do so at their own risk.
Start out easy and choose routes that are within your ability level. If you are unsure you probably need more experience and should choose the easiest routes. The best way to gain experience is to go on trips with skilled people.
Focus on the journey, not the destination. Be hypersensitive to time, changing weather, conditions, your ability and comfort level. If something doesn't seem right or you suspect you are entering an unsafe situation, turn around. The mountain will always be there. Exercising good judgement and knowing when to back off a route is absolutely essential to staying alive.
Snow Shoeing is Not Winter Hiking
A lot of summer trails can be extremely dangerous in the winter and many are closed for good reasons. The Grouse Grind summer trail is dead center in an avalanche zone. Some winter trails skirt dangerous areas. For example, when we snowshoe to Hollyburn Mountain in the winter we are...
"...scant meters from a gully system that kills skiers and boarders year after year... "
source: How to Kill Yourself Snowshoeing. A veteran SAR volunteer's experiences in British Columbia
I strongly suggest to everyone who snowshoes or uses crampons to read this blog entry. It could save your life.
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