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Reminder: Event discussion this Sunday[masked] (worldviews)

From: Bernie D.
Sent on: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 9:29 PM

Hi to those in the Vancouver Science and Religion Discussion Group, 

This Sunday,[masked], we’ll have an atheist/Christian discussion on the subject of worldviews.  All details are here:

As usual, there will be a free meal of pizza, and a chance for believers and non-believers to mix and mingle before and after the event.  The meal starts at about 6 pm, and the actual event at about 6:30 pm.

You can go to the link to see what the two presenters wrote as introductory remarks on the subject.

Here’s an interesting excerpt:

Pastor Ray wrote:

“And finally, each worldview invariably attempts to tell the "story of everything" in such a way that it trumps the validity of all its rival worldviews--a kind of King of the Mountain which involves heart and mind, life and death. The contrast between these views (theist/atheist) should be enlightening.”

One big difference in worldviews  is the answer to the question “is there a god.”  Each of us has to determine the answer for ourselves.  If there is no god, then all Christians (and all believers in God(s)) are deluded, because they imagine that there is one (or many).  But if there is a God(s), then non-believers are deluded by seeing the world only through naturalistic eyes.  It seems to me that one or the other group is deluded; it isn’t name-calling, but a fact, as both can’t simultaneously hold contradictory opinions and both be right.

I think an interesting data point is that the James Randi foundation has been offering a $1 million award for a number of years for anyone who can demonstrate supernatural power.  So far, a few have tried, but all have failed.  If there’s a God, does he just simply refuse to be tested?  More info on the award is here:

FYI, a Bible verse to indicate it is bad to test God, and another which says it is good:

1. Luke 4:12
Jesus answered, “It is said: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’ ”

2. Malachi 3:10
Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the LORD Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.


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