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Re: [kayaking-177] Swift Water Rescue Class Sept 24-25 with Russ Miller

From: John M.
Sent on: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 4:47 PM
$165 for the two day course, missed putting it in the email since it is on the site.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Emily <[address removed]> wrote:
What is the fee?

On Sep 7, 2011, at 4:18 PM, John Miller <[address removed]> wrote:


In my opinion anyone and I do mean anyone, who paddles anything more than class I rivers should take a Swift Water Rescue class.  There are many times when people get in trouble on little rivers, actually, it is usually little rivers that cause the most problems because those are the ones that the majority of people paddle.

Would you know what to do if this happened?

Some folks have questioned why this course is not ACA certified, this is why:

There are many different agencies that certify instructors, the ACA is just one of them.  Some people teach at schools that use ACA certifications only so they just need to know up front that they do not get ACA credit for this course.   I am ACA certified to teach kayak classes and it does not bother me at all that Russ is certified through his profession, which is para medic and rescue which has higher standards than ACA.
This is from Russ:
My courses are not ACA and it is important that students know this upfront. My certifications are through my training agency and meet National NFPA 1670 standards for swiftwater rescue. My certifications have been accepted around the word and all major whitewater rivers. This was the 4th year that I have taught the same two day course for the Knoxville based CHOTA canoe/kayak club which included students from the UTK outdoor program. The NFPA standards are: Awareness-8hours, Operations which include awareness-16 hours, Technician- 3 days after the Awareness and Operations. Very few people take the technician level. For most paddlers the Operations level is enough info to help them if a river situation comes up.

Some of you have asked questions about the class and how it is done so I wanted to share what Russ had to say about that. 

As to the two day course itself. A lot of people think that when they show up to a swiftwater class that they will be put in extreme situations for training. I do not do this. We do a lot of simulations however at no time do I put students in harms way. The first day is ground school until around noon. Than to the water. Usually this is done on the Hiwassee river by Gee creek ground. There is very little flow but it starts building on skills. The next day is at Double Suck rapid on the Ocoee. Students have the option of meeting there road side or paddling down if they are boaters. There we continue building on skills. If it moves along well than I try to finish up so that the boaters have a chance to play a little. This is usually around 4pm.  Everyone gets a completion card from my training agency stating the level and standard that was meet.

LAST, some of you have told me that you would love to take the class but just can't afford it right now, I certainly understand that.  If money is keeping you from attending, all me and let's work out a payment plan.  I really would like to have at least one SWR trained paddler on every trip that AAP puts on the calendar.

Warm regards,

JohnMiller                                                                                                                                                       [masked]

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