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Re: [atheists-59] Merit of atheism groups?

From: Susan
Sent on: Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:30 PM
I'm with Anand et al. on this one. Personally, I don't even like the Humanist Manifesto. I don't need a creed, even a naturalist one. (Has humanism been a topic at any previous meetups? How many of you are humanists? I'd be interested to hear everyone's opinions on the subject.)
I agree that an atheist group is valuable for a lot of reasons. I haven't had a chance to go to one of the meetups yet, but I joined primarily for moral support because of all the religious stupidity in the world. Not to mention superstitions like psychics, horoscopes, etc. It's frustrating to try to have a decent, rational, evidence-based conversation with someone who just ends up retreating behind "faith" or appeals to emotion. Just knowing there are other people out there who are as frustrated as I am helps. And an atheist group would be a good place to get support if we're dealing with friends or family who can't accept our non-belief. Besides, bouncing ideas off of each other is a good way to really fine-tune our arguments, right?
I also wanted to say that Jessica's post (when she told someone she didn't believe in God and they answered "That's your right") reminded me of what my sister said when I told her I was an atheist. She said, "Well, I won't hold it against you." WTF? Gee, thanks.
Looking forward to meeting everyone!
----- Original Message -----
From: Anand
Sent: Thursday, April 19,[masked]:42 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Re: Re: [atheists-59] Merit of atheism groups?

I'm sorry but the idea of an Atheist Bible gives me a whole body existentialist rash.  Or something.

I must be cranky today or something (low blood sugar/alcohol maybe) but if you want a Bible you should go to a church or a temple or a mosque (or a motel) with all the other "faithful".  The need to find all the answers in one place is part of the problem not a solution.  I'll take a library (the larger the better) thank you veddy much.

"Cranky" Anand

On 4/19/07, roy <[address removed]> wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]]
Sent: Thursday, April 19,[masked]:59 AM
To: ' [address removed]'
Subject: Re: Re: [atheists-59] Merit of atheism groups?

Hi, I'm Roy too-  but not the one with the agnostic wife.

Great points! An atheist bible could be helpful to many people  who don't
have time to work out for themselves the complexity of  morality without
religious dogma. People are used to looking for answers this way and a bible
would be very helpful.

ultimately, I would like to see political power in the atheist movement that
is taken away from the various churches. A bible is a great way to send the
message. I previously talked about  'the NEW new testament- the atheist


"In the beginning there is you. You are responsible for your life and for
the lives of  people you impact with your actions and inactions. You cannot
delegate this responsibility  to any God, your parents or your colleagues.
So think, what kind of impact would you like to have? "

ok take it from there everyone.

Roy Gat

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