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No Toll Road's in Az Rally Meeting 7pm This Wednesday 12-12-12 At the Martin Auto Museum

Shane B.
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Phoenix, AZ

AAHC Reminder
No Toll Road's in Az Rally Meeting
7pm This Wednesday 12-12-12
At the Martin Auto Museum

Make no mistake about it, ADOT & our Az Governor are moving full speed ahead to bring Toll Roads to Arizona
(See written proof in 10-19-12 ADOT meeting minutes at bottom of page.)


Notice to all concerned Arizona residents;

The AAHC or Arizona Automobile Hobbyist Council is hosting another No Toll Road's in Az Rally meeting this coming Wednesday December 12th 2012 beginning at 7 pm at the Martin Auto Museum located at 17641 No. Black Canyon Highway in Phoenix, 85023. (Take the I-17 east-side frontage road north of Bell Road and look for their big new yellow sign).

The newly remodeled and reopened Martin Auto Museum will open its doors at 6:00pm so come early to check it out and to see their latest acquisition, a spectacular red & white Supercharged 1930 Duesenberg Boat-Tailed Roadster.

The AAHC's No Toll Road's in Az Rally has been rescheduled and will now be held at the Az State Capitol on Wednesday February 27th 2013 from 10am to 2pm to bring people from all over Arizona together to show our elected officials that the driving public does not want ANY toll roads in our state.

We already pay 18 cents per gallon Az gas tax, (plus a Federal gas tax of 18.4 cents more,) all meant for highway use. So despite what our lawmakers are now saying, there was always plenty of money coming in to maintain our existing highways as well as to build new roads in Arizona.

The Az State Legislature needs to leave our States highway tax money alone. Just in the last year they took over $1.4 Billion of our States highway tax money to balance their budget and give tax breaks. Then they turn around and complain that there isn't any money available to maintain or build roads in Arizona. Go figure?

All concerned citizens are invited to attend these planning meetings and we welcome people from the motorcycle rights groups, transportation industry, civic groups or anyone just concerned about adding huge new road-use taxes to our economy through tolling scheme's.

Plans are already being made for toll roads in Az, and if we do not act now, it will soon be too late. See below for the minutes from the 10-19-12 ADOT meeting proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that ADOT and our Az Governor are moving full speed ahead towards "Public, Private Partnerships" or Toll Roads.

So stand-up Arizona. It's united we drive and divided were taxed at the pump AND tolled on the road. We all need to stand together and firmly tell our State Lawmakers that Arizona's motorists are not mobile revenue source's.

Visit our new website set up just for this issue, for more info. Volunteers will be adding more content to the site very soon.

*Please forward this email to all people in AZ on your email list ASAP.

Thank you,
Al Tracy, Board President of the AAHC
623-204-9172, e-mail:
Arizona Automobile Hobbyist Council
Bill Gilmore, AAHC Legislative Liaison
602-230-7111, e-mail:

For anyone who is still not completely convinced that our Arizona State Government is rapidly gearing up for the switch to toll roads wherever possible need only read the below minutes from the last ADOT State Transportation Board Meeting on 10-19-12.

*Please note that I've underlined text & used bold type below for emphasis only and the *asterisk's denote *(note's in italic's indicate my clarification of detail's FYI).

ADOT State Transportation Board Meeting Minutes 10-19-12 in Springerville Az.

*(see Agenda Item 9 on page 20 of the 168 page ADOT report at:­)

"Floyd *(Floyd P. Roehrich) provided an update that before the passage of the recent surface transportation bill,*(MAP-21) federal law was quite prohibitive about tolling on federal aid highways. The exceptions were narrow and had to be approved by Federal Highway Administration.*(FHWA)

High Occupancy Toll or HOT lanes were easier, but still limited. Most tolling options were allowed only through pilot programs for Value Pricing and Express Lanes, similar to HOT lanes and two tolling pilot programs for interstates.

One of these pilot programs, the Interstate System Reconstruction and Rehabilitation and Pilot Program, is the one we *(ADOT) tried, unsuccessfully, to use for I-15 *(to convert I-15 to a toll road in Az).

The recently enacted "MAP-21" *(Federal Surface Transportation Legislation signed into law on 7-6-12 called "Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century" or MAP-21) is much friendlier to tolls, public private partnerships, and HOT lanes. There are many newly expanded tolling rights *(or opportunities) for the interstate system. Newly constructed lanes, bridges, and tunnels on the interstate system can now be tolled.

Lanes that can clearly be tolled under the new law no longer require FHWA approval, or any kind of FHWA agreement. There is still some confusion about tolling the reconstruction of existing interstate facilities. The new law is silent on the issue and federal and state officials are trying to get better guidance. We are guessing that reconstruction without the addition of new capacity will still not be allowed on the interstate system.

There is a central principle that comes through in the new law. There cannot be a reduction of free, non-HOV lane capacity on federal aid highways and the interstate system. New interstate construction can be tolled. New capacity can be tolled in most, but not all, instances. Existing capacity cannot be tolled.

As you know, we *(ADOT) were successful in getting our P3 *(public private partnerships) law updated during the 2012 legislative session *(see HB2491). We were successful in getting the rebate provision taken out *(refunding truck tolls paid), and we were granted authority to enforce tolls *(by suspending drivers licenses & vehicle registration & impounding vehicles for unpaid tolls) as well as implement them *(tolls & rate's).

But the definition of a toll facility remained as it was in 2009. It is any new highway, roadway, lane, bridge or tunnel. Again, new capacity could be tolled, but existing capacity cannot. The same principle applies to HOT lanes.

An existing HOV *(high occupancy vehicle or car-pool vehicle) lane can be converted to a HOT *(high occupancy toll) lane and tolled, but the number of general purpose lanes *(free lanes) cannot be reduced.

Not all legal projects are financially viable. ADOT is currently in the middle of a procurement process to hire a program Traffic and Revenue firm. *(To help ADOT create more toll roads.) These firms specialize in determining the financial viability of possible P3 and tolled projects. They use sophisticated modeling to help determine whether a potential project hits the right mix of traffic demand and the amount of the toll to charge.

A project that cannot hit the sweet spot combination of adequate traffic at a high enough toll will not bring in enough revenue to make the project worthwhile. Several projects around the country have fallen short on revenue projections. One, the SR-125 in San Diego, even went into bankruptcy.

Even projects that appear to be financially viable also have to be politically and publicly acceptable. Tolling US-93 or any other project would need to be studied in some detail to determine its legal, financial, and public viability. A preliminary look indicates that US-93 may not be permitted under state or federal law until new capacity has been added to the highway. The long distances, multiple access points, and variable traffic counts may not make it ideal from a financial viability standpoint, although it has not been vetted. It has not been tested in terms of public acceptance either."
Now, if all of those above quote's from the 10-19-12 ADOT meeting minutes weren't enough to convince you that toll roads are being seriously considered for Arizona, please read below a paragraph excerpted from the ADOT Director's report also given on 10-19-12 to ADOT's State Transportation Board on the "Border Governor's Conference" held on October 3-5, 2012 in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
In attendance were six border Governors including Governor Brewer from Arizona. There were three working strategies developed by the Border Governor’s Conference to address various issues.

Following below is a direct quote printed in bold type on their third strategy, my underlining below is just to highlight the emphasis on toll roads and the laws to enable them to be formed;

"The third item is to identify opportunities for public-private-partnership's (PPPs) to bring in funding for transportation infrastructure and land Port of Entry improvements. And, look to identify and support the necessary enabling legislation for the federal agencies to enter into those partnerships. Those are the three key focus areas for this work table."

So dear readers, now that you can clearly see and understand what we are facing here, only informed and active citizen's can stop or change this growing transition to toll roads in Arizona. That is why the upcoming "No Toll Roads in Arizona" rally on February 27th 2013 at the Arizona State Capital in Phoenix may be your only chance to participate in democracy and firmly tell our lawmakers that Arizona's motorists are not mobile revenue sources.

Please forward this e-mail to everyone you know who drives a vehicle in Arizona and I hope to see you at this Wednesday's 7pm meeting and I also hope to see you at the State Capital on February 27th because it's united we drive and divided (by apathy) we're taxed at the pump and tolled on the road.
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