Re: [humanism-174] My reply to an email my sister forwarded to me.....

From: Randy P.
Sent on: Monday, November 26, 2012 1:04 PM
Mark,

I am unconvinced of this statement.  I do not accept that opinion and provisional truth are equivalents. You'll need to offer a convincing argument to establish this claim. As I said in an earlier post, it is my opinion that blue is a more pleasing color. This is an opinion. It is not a provisional truth. In fact it is not a truth. Just because I believe it does not make it either absolutely true nor provisionally true.

I will concede it is possible for an opinion to become a provisional truth, but not that they are in fact the same. Provisional truth has a much higher wall of evidence that must be scaled than does opinion. 

Randy


From: Mark R. Orel <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Monday, November 26,[masked]:28 AM
Subject: Re: [humanism-174] My reply to an email my sister forwarded to me.....

Randy:

An established opinion is the same as a provisional
truth.  Semantically, we are either both wrong or both
correct.   I leave it to you. 


M. Orel

On[masked]:35, Randy Pelton wrote:
You thought gravity was an established opinion? Wrong. Gravity is a theory. Theory is not a substitute word for opinion an opinion is not a substitute word for theory. There is an enormous difference between theory (its scientific meaning, not its colloquial meaning) and opinion. If you do not know this then you are afflicted with some ignorance of science. 

Randy




 



On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Randy Pelton <[address removed]> wrote:
Mark,

Again you display both an ignorance of science and your post-modernist disease. Note that the first definition refers to "established opinion." The theories and conclusions of science are NOT opinions. They are provisional truths based upon large quantities of evidence and observation. Opinion's do not require evidence, and are frequently proffered by individuals without any offer of evidence or facts to support them. When opinion finds its way into science - and, yes, I do admit it occasionally does - it is quickly rooted out. The scientific enterprise assures that opinions do not in the end become established conclusions in science. Thus dogma has no permanent nor welcome safe haven in science. Newton's Theory of Gravity, Einstein's General Theory of Relativity and Special Theory of Relativity, the Big Bang Theory, Cell Theory, Evolutionary Theory, the Heliocentric Theory of the Solar System, and the myriad other established theories of science are not opinions and are not dogmas. 

Of course, being a post-modernist, you would have us think otherwise. It suits your purposes, whatever they may be and whatever motivates them, to have us all believe that one viewpoint or one set of conclusions are no better, no nearer the truth, than another. If you persist in this lunacy then I will conclude it is because your mind has been thoroughly intellectually polluted and contaminated by post-modernism. 

LIke assholes, everybody has one or more opinions. And opinions oftentimes, like assholes, are a source of shit. Please stop spreading your shit concerning this topic. 

Randy






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