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just got off the phone after 2 hours with a "friend" of mine

From: Chris K
Sent on: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:15 PM
So, my friend Joe is actually a nice guy.  Yes, you've all seen some examples of my conversations with him.  He is, in the purest sense, a christian apologeticist.  He doesn't even know what that is.  Yet he is one.

He says there is objective morality based on the bible.  I asked him "if your son was strapped to train tracks and the only way to save him was to throw a lever and kill a hundred people in another train car, would you do it?"  He said no.  It was a matter of math.  He would save the hundred strangers.

I upped the ante.

"If your son was in the same situation and there were two strangers, men who you had never met before, would you save them over your son."

He hemmed and hawed.  No answer.

He tried Pascal's wager... fail.

I mentioned that the the first three commandements are about god being jealousy.  He said "but isn't jealously good sometimes?"

I countered with 'but if they were written by the LORD OF THE FREAKING UNIVERSE don't you thing the first three would be about something other than....




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