With whom will it hurt the cause? Did I miss something here? Hasn't all the criticism and conversation about this poem been restricted to this forum? The only person on this forum with whom the cause might be damaged is you and since you already don't support efforts to criticize religion why should we worry about what you think concerning the poem or the topic in general?
From: Mark R. Orel <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Friday, December 21,[masked]:32 AM
Subject: Re: [humanism-174] xmas bullcrap prayer titled: Twas' 11 days before Christmas
I don't understand, why would this have to be something
to be questioned and/or rebutted? I like the poem. I don't
know Ms. Smith, and this is only my opinion, I think she
wrote from a perspective of faith and I don't see it as
When Ms. Smith writes: "may this country be delivered from the
hands of fools, I'm taking back my nation, I'm taking back my
schools." She may only mean from the people who commit
these types of crimes.
Personally, I think attacking this poem without knowing exactly
what Ms. Smith's motives were, will only hurt your cause.
It just isn't good P.R.
On[masked]:58, Tim Campbell
Sounds like a classic child molester.
While the first part IS comforting (I would certainly
WISH that these children were not only at peace, but did
not remember the horror of their deaths), the rest just
begs to be questioned and/or rebutted. And of course,
the "writer" HAD to throw in a political/theocratical
message about this magic Jesus "taking back" the
Shame magic Jesus did not deign to intervene or do a
damned thing to keep this horror from happening in the
first place. Somehow I would not trust him to keep any
sort of eye on the living!
In a message dated 12/20/2012 4:41:35 P.M. Eastern
Standard Time, [address removed] writes:
I like that, "Jesus is stranger danger"!! Good
All these Christians claim that when you are in
heaven, you will "forget" about all your friends
that are in hell because they didn't believe. I
tell them that forgetting about those people I
liked and loved sounds like hell to me!!!
Christians can explain hell to the detail, but ask
them to describe heaven, they say it's so
wonderful, it's "indescribable"... No wonder we
live in hell on Earth right now.
Can't wait till these slaves wake up and see
these monotheistic religions for what they are.
Monopolies on the ownership of God, which
technically monopolies are supposed to be ILLEGAL
in this country!
"We are at the end of a definition of what a
normal human being is."
On Dec 20, 2012, at 4:21 PM, sheri presloid <[address removed]>
My uncle sent
this to me. This is just so wrong.
Wow. How does a religious person
read this without having 10,000
questions!?!?!? I understand there
will be grief and such, but this just
makes it sound like dying was better
than living. I would have to guess
that if this could happen, those kids
are crying for their mom and dad since
jesus would be "stranger danger".
Twas' 11 days
before Christmas, around 9:38
When 20 beautiful children
stormed through heaven's gate.
Their smiles were contagious,
their laughter filled the air.
They could hardly believe all
the beauty they saw there.
They were filled with such
They didn't know
what to say.
They remembered nothing of
what had happened earlier that
"Where are we?" asked a little
girl, as quiet as a mouse.
"This is heaven." declared a
small boy. "We're spending
Christmas at God's house."
When what to their wondering
eyes did appear,
But Jesus, their Savior, the
children gathered near.
He looked at them and smiled,
and they smiled just the same.
Then He opened His arms and He
called them by name.
And in that moment was joy,
that only heaven can bring
Those children all flew into
the arms of their King
And as they lingered in the
warmth of His embrace,
One small girl turned and
looked at Jesus' face.
And as if He could read all
the questions she had,
He gently whispered to her,
"I'll take care of mom and
Then He looked down on earth,
the world far below
He saw all of the hurt, the
sorrow, and woe...
Then He closed His eyes and He
outstretched His hand,
"Let My power and presence
re-enter this land!"
"May this country be delivered
from the hands of fools."
"I'm taking back my nation.
I'm taking back my schools!"
Then He and the children stood
up without a sound.
"Come now my children, let me
show you around."
Excitement filled the space,
some skipped and some ran.
All displaying enthusiasm that
only a small child can.
And I heard Him proclaim as He
walked out of sight,
"In the midst of this
darkness, I AM STILL THE
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