Re: [humanism-174] xmas bullcrap prayer titled: Twas' 11 days before Christmas

From: Randy P.
Sent on: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:17 AM
Mark,

With whom will it hurt the cause? Did I miss something here? Hasn't all the criticism and conversation about this poem been restricted to this forum? The only person on this forum with whom the cause might be damaged is you and since you already don't support efforts to criticize religion why should we worry about what you think concerning the poem or the topic in general?

Randy


From: Mark R. Orel <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Friday, December 21,[masked]:32 AM
Subject: Re: [humanism-174] xmas bullcrap prayer titled: Twas' 11 days before Christmas

I don't understand, why would this have to be something
to be questioned and/or rebutted? I like the poem.  I don't
know Ms. Smith, and this is only my opinion, I think she
wrote from a perspective of faith and I don't see it as
political. 

When Ms. Smith writes: "may this country be delivered from the
hands of fools, I'm taking back my nation, I'm taking back my
schools."  She may only mean from the people who commit
these types of crimes. 

Personally, I think attacking this poem without knowing exactly
what Ms. Smith's motives were, will only hurt your cause. 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022037984
It just isn't good P.R. 


M. Orel



On[masked]:58, Tim Campbell wrote:
Sounds like a classic child molester.
While the first part IS comforting (I would certainly WISH that these children were not only at peace, but did not remember the horror of their deaths), the rest just begs to be questioned and/or rebutted.  And of course, the "writer" HAD to throw in a political/theocratical message about this magic Jesus "taking back" the schools etc.  
Shame magic Jesus did not deign to intervene or do a damned thing to keep this horror from happening in the first place.  Somehow I would not trust him to keep any sort of eye on the living!
 
Tim Campbell
 
In a message dated 12/20/2012 4:41:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [address removed] writes:
I like that, "Jesus is stranger danger"!! Good one!

All these Christians claim that when you are in heaven, you will "forget" about all your friends that are in hell because they didn't believe. I tell them that forgetting about those people I liked and loved sounds like hell to me!!!

Christians can explain hell to the detail, but ask them to describe heaven, they say it's so wonderful, it's "indescribable"... No wonder we live in hell on Earth right now. 

Can't wait till these slaves wake up and see these monotheistic religions for what they are. Monopolies on the ownership of God, which technically monopolies are supposed to be ILLEGAL in this country! 

"We are at the end of a definition of what a normal human being is."



On Dec 20, 2012, at 4:21 PM, sheri presloid <[address removed]> wrote:

My uncle sent this to me.  This is just so wrong.  Wow.  How does a religious person read this without having 10,000 questions!?!?!?  I understand there will be grief and such, but this just makes it sound like dying was better than living.  I would have to guess that if this could happen, those kids are crying for their mom and dad since jesus would be "stranger danger".


Twas' 11 days before Christmas, around 9:38
When 20 beautiful children stormed through heaven's gate.
Their smiles were contagious, their laughter filled the air.
They could hardly believe all the beauty they saw there.
They were filled with such joy,
They didn't know what to say.
They remembered nothing of what had happened earlier that day.
"Where are we?" asked a little girl, as quiet as a mouse.
"This is heaven." declared a small boy. "We're spending Christmas at God's house."
When what to their wondering eyes did appear,
But Jesus, their Savior, the children gathered near.
He looked at them and smiled, and they smiled just the same.
Then He opened His arms and He called them by name.
And in that moment was joy, that only heaven can bring
Those children all flew into the arms of their King
And as they lingered in the warmth of His embrace,
One small girl turned and looked at Jesus' face.
And as if He could read all the questions she had,
He gently whispered to her, "I'll take care of mom and dad."
Then He looked down on earth, the world far below
He saw all of the hurt, the sorrow, and woe...
Then He closed His eyes and He outstretched His hand,
"Let My power and presence re-enter this land!"
"May this country be delivered from the hands of fools."
"I'm taking back my nation. I'm taking back my schools!"
Then He and the children stood up without a sound.
"Come now my children, let me show you around."
Excitement filled the space, some skipped and some ran.
All displaying enthusiasm that only a small child can.
And I heard Him proclaim as He walked out of sight,
"In the midst of this darkness, I AM STILL THE LIGHT."



 





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