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Re: [humanism-174] Fwd: Bogus Louisiana Teacher Survey Used to Support Centr...

From: Tim C.
Sent on: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 2:50 PM
Technically, one can say that Mark Orel is correct when he asserts that one cannot EXCLUDE divine creation or evolution.  However, one can very easily REJECT one or the other.
 
We cannot exclude divine creation simply because there is no way to pin the theists down to a deity specific enough to exclude.  One can always hang one's hat on the "gaps".  If science does not have a confirmed definitive explanation, then we can insert God as THE explanation or as A explanation.  Of course, the hardened theists insert their god even when science offers a perfectly good explanation.
 
But to give divine creation equal weight with the scientific theory of evolution requires some heavy mental judo, or a pre-conceived theistic world-view.
 
Divine Creation
 
Origin:  thousands of pre-science tribes seeking to explain natural phenomena (volcanoes, storms, illness, dreams, death) invent thousands of myths--almost always tribe-centric stories of supernatural beings who not coincidentally favor their inventing tribes as special or chosen over all other tribes.  Many of the tribal myths are themselves borrowed or adapted from the tribal myths of earlier or neighboring tribes.
 
Observed evidence:  none
Direct evidence: none
experiments supporting: none
predictions based on (and verifiable): none
 
Evidence against divine creation:  many of the myths are obviously adapted from other myths.  Many of these myths contain contradictions against observed nature. Many of these myths contain internal contradictions.  All of the myths claim that all of the other myths are made up!
 
Evolution
Origin:  observation over centuries by disparate and independent observers and researchers, many of who were themselves churchmen looking to confirm their own tribal myths.  Eventually, the more rational of them accepted that the real world and their myths were becoming more and more incompatible
 
Evidence:
fossils, genetics, comparative anatomy, the support of dozens of other unrelated fields, prediction, direct observation of change and even speciation.
Evidence against: none
 
Tim Campbell
 
 
 

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