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Re: [humanism-174] "The Bible" on History Channel

From: Chris K
Sent on: Monday, March 11, 2013 9:17 AM
My problem with conspiracy theories (and I used to buy a few) is that they are not parsimonious. You have to keep inserting more and more implausibilities as the theory grows. 

Chris


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On Mar 11, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Tim Campbell <[address removed]> wrote:

 
 
In a message dated 3/11/[masked]:29:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [address removed] writes:
Tim and Greg -   I suppose you’ll be willing to agree I have some justification for speaking on behalf of conspiracy theorists. 
Definitely.
  Obviously you have very limited understanding of them (or us).
Obviously you have limited understanding of basically everything, including but not limited to the level or degree of my understanding.
Especially since these days of the internet,  particularly youtube,  all this inside knowledge you mentioned is not secret.   Of course there is plenty of exagerated or purely fabricated balderdash that gets emailed around too much. 
Most of this balderdash is disseminated by conspiracy whackos.  Theorists being too gentle a term for many who are out and out whackos.
   There are always low-information/ low-ethics individuals in every segment of society what can we ever do about things like THAT problem.    Most “conspiracists” fully understand that our ability to protect ourselves from the conspiracies is very limited, and that our best protection will only come from wider acceptance and understanding of those conspiracies (whichever ones are actually true).   
There are conspiracies and then there are conspiracies.  The vast majority of conspiracy theories require too much fore-knowledge and expertise from the alleged conspirators. 
Which brings me to the fact that the sincere conspiracy theorists  are only in search of the truth and finding ways to inspire more people also search for it,  instead of  simply accepting everything the mainstream media tells us, without question. 
No, you're mostly nuts looking for attention. 
   It’s not intrigue that’s swirling above our (or your) heads that concerns us,   it’s the truth swirling up there, which is so unknown and so rejected by most Americans  that we obsess about.     It’s people like you who are so enslaved to your prejudices and paradigms about what to believe/ disbelieve that worries  me.  
Again, you're mostly nuts looking for attention.  You really do not understand the rest of us. 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Let’s dive directly into one of the hottest conspiracy theories -  the one about what caused the WTC buildings to fall.     Do you believe everything Bush and Cheney and their 9-11 so called investigators said we should believe?    What about Richard Gage and the 1,500 other credentialed  experts who agree with him that the three WTC buildings weren’t destroyed by just two airliners -   do you think every one of them is lying to us?
Why do you maintain that the conspiracy people are "experts" whereas the actual investigators from several separate agencies (FBI and NYPD among others) are "so-called" investigators?  You prejudice your statement right from the get-go without even thinking about it.
  do they all have some shady subversive agenda causing them to wager their reputations on this craziness?    Here’s a link to their website in case you’d like  to  explain how all the things they say are lies or hallucinations or otherwize untrue:  http://www.ae911truth.org/.   And then  if you have enough curiosity to look,  you might get some good insights from   someone who made a 6 minute youtube  particularly about you who seem to get psychological benefits from  ridiculing people who have differing beliefs from the ones you have. 
Difference between beliefs and facts.  You give Bush and Cheney too much credit for their abilities to conceive, plan, and execute such an event.  That these two men took full advantage of this event in order to further their own agendas is certain.  To think that they planned it together is ludicrous.  They are not that smart and too many people with unrelated agendas would need to be involved.
 
I do not doubt that there are and have been "conspiracies".  It is when whackos take the "work" of pissant malcontents or foreign fundaloons and decide that "higher ups" did the actual planning rather than simply taking advantage of what has occurred.
 
Your posts continue to wander into IrrationalLand!
Tim
 
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