Re: [humanism-174] a conversation with my christian cousin

From: Tim C.
Sent on: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:34 PM
True. But we can sometimes be just as obnoxious and just as demeaning, so if we ARE going to come out, we have to be aware of our audience.  Remember, that belief in God or gods goes back far enough that it can be considered close to hard-wired!  Certainly the superstitions and dreams and appearance of agency are hard-wired.  WE are still the minority and while we may have reason and logic and science on our side, THEY do not consider those to be assets, but the do consider faith to be a virtue.  THAT difference is an essential difference and as we see here in Sam and Sam's cousin's case, it is the crux of the case!
 
The second Sam equated cousin's religious beliefs with superstition, no matter how well intentioned or accurate, the game was over, the war was lost, the buses were started, the audience began to pack, and Jerry was walking over to do his Final Thoughts! 
 
Tim
 
 
In a message dated 2/25/2014 5:22:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [address removed] writes:
This is an example of why many non-believers are reluctant to "out" themselves with fam, whileily and friends. Sometimes no matter how it is done, the other person makes assumptions and it ends up damaging or ending the relationship. In my experience, it seems that many believers never look on you the same way again -- concluding that you have gone over to the "dark side", or perhaps are going through a "phase". So they often shun or distance themselves from you, or alternatively, try bring you back into the fold, fearing that your soul is in mortal danger.   Fortunately not everyone reacts that way, and non-belief seems to be gaining a little better acceptance in recent years. But sadly, many polls show still that atheists are the most despised minority in America.





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