Whether or not we have social rules is a valid concern. So, why have social rules?

The goal isn't to burden Hack And Tell with a bunch of annoying rules, or to give us a stick to bludgeon people with for "being bad." Rather, these rules are designed to help all of us build a pleasant, productive, and fearless community.

If someone says, "hey, you just feigned surprise," or "that's subtly sexist," don't worry. Just apologize, reflect for a second, and move on. It doesn't mean you're a "bad" person, or even a "bad" Hacker. We also hope it doesn't feel as though you are being controlled in any way.

(The above text was basically lifted from the hacker school manual, btw)

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Sam Kottler <[address removed]> wrote:

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:56 PM, Sawyer Carter Jacobs <[address removed]> wrote:

Yes,  because nothing heightens discourse and instills empathy better than changing the masthead on a etiquette manual. 

IMHO, outside of kindergartens, codifying civility is antithetical.

This is the same argument that people make against conferences having codes of conduct, which is frankly ludicrous. And guess what, people often are not civil, despite having supposedly (as you suggest) being taught how to be at an early age. So having a rough set of guidelines of what the community stands for and how that stand is carried out practically is important. If you can't live by the standards everyone has collectively set, then you can't be part of the group.

-s

 

I'd rather see Hack n Tell's pathos be forged by individuals in search of kind and meaningful interactions... As opposed to a list of do's and don'ts posted above the blackboard.

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Daniel Benamy <[address removed]> wrote:

I'm more of a new lurker rather than a member of the community, but that sounds great!

In fact, if we want a manual, why not just copy Hacker School's? They've put a lot of time and effort into it that we can avoid duplicating.

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, James Dennis <[address removed]> wrote:

Hackers.

There are times when I do something sort of extreme and then go into a self-reflective phase to sort out what I feel about that extreme thing.  This weekend, it was my howard stern warning to that company, whose name I'm not repeating.

This got me thinking. Can we be better? What would better look like?

As many know, I was in Hacker School's first batch, so when I think about how communities can be created, I look towards the incredible job they've done. In particular, the environment section of their manual: https://www.hackerschool.com/manual#sec-environment

Our community is obviously different from Hacker School. But I suspect we would benefit from taking on some of their traits. I'm going to start by promising to not be vulgar. I am also going to enforce, in my personal life and interactions with Hack And Tellers, the social rules such no feigning surprise, no well-actually's, and (perhaps most importantly) no subtle sexism. Combine these things with our existing format and I think we'd be on the right track.

Perhaps the result of any discussion here can be our own manual that we put on hackandtell.org.

Thoughts? Criticisms?

James

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