Hi Barry,

Interesting you mentioned that since this was one of the topics that David and I discussed last night.

Looking at our first 2 Software Craftsmanship Round-table meetings it is fair to say that the majority of the people there, overall, were quite senior. However, there were some juniors as well and as far as I can tell, everyone had a good time.

As LSCC is technology agnostic, people attending our meetings may be seniors in some technologies but know nothing about others, making it a fascinating environment to be in. Last Round-table we had a mix of Java, .Net and Android developers. There was also a User Experience guy. We hope to have people from many other languages as well since we believe we can learn a lot from each other and that many of our problems are common, regardless the technology we use.

The way I see it, the Software Craftsmanship Round-table meetings are not the type of meeting that you go to see a single person giving a talk. It is a healthy and friendly environment where people are encouraged to discuss topics and learn from each others experiences. As in any discussion group, some people talk a bit more than others, according to their experience in the topic being discussed, but in the end, the discussions are very valuable for everyone.

Everybody is welcome to any of our meetings. Just bring some passion and an open mind for the discussions.

I'm keen to know everyone's opinion about it. Do you think this is a bit intimidating? For those of you who attended the meetings, what is your opinion?

Cheers,

 

Sandro Mancuso
Co-founder of the London Software Craftsmanship Community
Founder of The WorldWalkers

Twitter: @sandromancuso

Blog: http://craftedsw.blogspot.com

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What sort of level would someone have to be at to get something out of these meeting Sandro? Is it aimed at Seniors or could Juniors get a lot out of it too? It seems like quite an intimidating place for someone with no experience - what do you think?

Thanks,

Barry

On 3 Dec 2010, at 16:06, Sandro Mancuso wrote:

Hi all,

Speaking to some of our members I realised that not many of you know how the Software Craftsmanship Round-table meetings work and what sort of topics are discussed. It's very simple. We get together, people are invited to write topics to be discussed on the whiteboard, we vote and then we discuss the most popular ones. Any thing related to software development is considered a valid topic. There are plenty of whiteboard space and a projector that can be used to show code, applications, etc. Ah, and of course, we also eat some pizza and have a few drinks.

In the last round-table meeting the topics chosen were very interesting and raised good and informative debates, some of them quite passionate. Topics discussed included:
- 1st: DSL, literate code, TDD, Hamcrest, JUnit Theories. Code was demoed using the projector. BDD frameworks and groovy were also mentioned.
- 2nd: Agile development in distributed environments. Real case of a mobile application developed by teams in the UK and China. Challenges, ideas and solutions were shared and discussed.
- 3rd: Anaemic Domains in traditional Action/Service/DAO web applications in Java. Very passionate discussion where alternatives to this pattern were proposed, looking at DDD (challenges and pitfalls), CQRS, ActiveRecord and comparisons of how the same problem is solved in other platforms like .Net and Ruby on Rails.

Bert wrote a nice write-up about it here: http://www.bertvanbrakel.com/blog/2010/11/software-craftsmanship-meetup-table-thu-25-nov/

For next year we are planning some interesting meetings and we will be keeping the Round-table as a regular meeting as well. Please keep your ideas coming, using the Ideas area in the website.

Just as a reminder, the next two Software Craftsmanship Round-table meetings are already scheduled (16/12 and 18/01). If you are planning to come, I would encourage you to hurry in order to secure your place.

I hope to see you all in the next meetings.

Cheers,
Sandro




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