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Plastic bag tax in Ireland NYTimes Feb 2, 2008

user 3022592
Portland, ME
Post #: 86
Dear Friends,

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February 2, 2008
Motivated by a Tax, Irish Spurn Plastic Bags
NY Times

DUBLIN ? There is something missing from this otherwise typical bustling cityscape. There are taxis and buses. There are hip bars and pollution. Every other person is talking into a cellphone. But there are no plastic shopping bags, the ubiquitous symbol of urban life.

In 2002, Ireland passed a tax on plastic bags; customers who want them must now pay 33 cents per bag at the register. There was an advertising awareness campaign. And then something happened that was bigger than the sum of these parts.

Within weeks, plastic bag use dropped 94 percent. Within a year, nearly everyone had bought reusable cloth bags, keeping them in offices and in the backs of cars. Plastic bags were not outlawed, but carrying them became socially unacceptable ? on a par with wearing a fur coat or not cleaning up after one?s dog.

?When my roommate brings one in the flat it annoys the hell out of me,? said Edel Egan, a photographer, carrying groceries last week in a red backpack.

Drowning in a sea of plastic bags, countries from China to Australia, cities from San Francisco to New York have in the past year adopted a flurry of laws and regulations to address the problem, so far with mixed success. The New York City Council, for example, in the face of stiff resistance from business interests, passed a measure requiring only that stores that hand out plastic bags take them back for recycling.

But in the parking lot of a Superquinn Market, Ireland?s largest grocery chain, it is clear that the country is well into the post-plastic-bag era. ?I used to get half a dozen with every shop. Now I?d never ever buy one,? said Cathal McKeown, 40, a civil servant carrying two large black cloth bags bearing the bright green Superquinn motto. ?If I forgot these, I?d just take the cart of groceries and put them loose in the boot of the car, rather than buy a bag.?

Gerry McCartney, 50, a data processor, has also switched to cloth. ?The tax is not so much, but it completely changed a very bad habit,? he said. ?Now you never see plastic.?

In January almost 42 billion plastic bags were used worldwide, according to; the figure increases by more than half a million bags every minute. A vast majority are not reused, ending up as waste ? in landfills or as litter. Because plastic bags are light and compressible, they constitute only 2 percent of landfill, but since most are not biodegradable, they will remain there.

In a few countries, including Germany, grocers have long charged a nominal fee for plastic bags, and cloth carrier bags are common. But they are the exception.

In the past few months, several countries have announced plans to eliminate the bags. Bangladesh and some African nations have sought to ban them because they clog fragile sewerage systems, creating a health hazard. Starting this summer, China will prohibit sellers from handing out free plastic shopping bags, but the price they should charge is not specified, and there is little capacity for enforcement. Australia says it wants to end free plastic bags by the end of the year, but has not decided how.

Efforts to tax plastic bags have failed in many places because of heated opposition from manufacturers as well as from merchants, who have said a tax would be bad for business. In Britain, Los Angeles and San Francisco, proposed taxes failed to gain political approval, though San Francisco passed a ban last year. Some countries, like Italy, have settled for voluntary participation.

But there were no plastic bag makers in Ireland (most bags here came from China), and a forceful environment minister gave reluctant shopkeepers little wiggle room, making it illegal for them to pay for the bags on behalf of customers. The government collects the tax, which finances environmental enforcement and cleanup programs.

Furthermore, the environment minister told shopkeepers that if they changed from plastic to paper, he would tax those bags, too.

While paper bags, which degrade, are in some ways better for the environment, studies suggest that more greenhouse gases are released in their manufacture and transportation than in the production of plastic bags.

Today, Ireland?s retailers are great promoters of taxing the bags. ?I spent many months arguing against this tax with the minister; I thought customers wouldn?t accept it,? said Senator Feargal Quinn, founder of the Superquinn chain. ?But I have become a big, big enthusiast.?

Mr. Quinn is also president of EuroCommerce, a group representing six million European retailers. In that capacity, he has encouraged a plastic bag tax in other countries. But members are not buying it. ?They say: ?Oh, no, no. It wouldn?t work. It wouldn?t be acceptable in our country,? ? Mr. Quinn said.

As nations fail to act decisively, some environmentally conscious chains have moved in with their own policies. Whole Foods Market announced in January that its stores would no longer offer disposable plastic bags, using recycled paper or cloth instead, and many chains are starting to charge customers for plastic bags.

But such ad hoc efforts are unlikely to have the impact of a national tax. Mr. Quinn said that when his Superquinn stores tried a decade ago to charge 1 cent for plastic bags, customers rebelled. He found himself standing at the cash register buying bags for customers with change from his own pocket to prevent them from going elsewhere.

After five years of the plastic bag tax, Ireland has changed the image of cloth bags, a feat advocates hope to achieve in the United States. Vincent Cobb, the president of, who founded the company four years ago to promote the issue, said: ?Using cloth bags has been seen as an extreme act of a crazed environmentalist. We want it to be seen as something a smart, progressive person would carry.?

Some things worked to Ireland?s advantage. Almost all markets are part of chains that are highly computerized, with cash registers that already collect a national sales tax, so adding the bag tax involved a minimum of reprogramming, and there was little room for evasion.

The country also has a young, flexible population that has proved to be a good testing ground for innovation, from cellphone services to nonsmoking laws. Despite these favorable conditions, Ireland still ended up raising the bag tax 50 percent, after officials noted that consumption was rising slightly.

Ireland has moved on with the tax concept, proposing similar taxes on customers for A.T.M. receipts and chewing gum. (The sidewalks of Dublin are dotted with old wads.) The gum tax has been avoided for the time being because the chewing gum giant Wrigley agreed to create a public cleanup fund as an alternative. This year, the government plans to ban conventional light bulbs, making only low-energy, long-life fluorescent bulbs available.
user 3832381
Portland, ME
Post #: 12
Thanks Elaine!
I had heard about this and am thrilled to hear that it is working! I believe, but could be wrong, that Portland's own House Rep., Jon Hinck will be introducing similar legislation for Maine. Wouldn't it be nice if one of Portland's City Councilors would move to ban plastic bags in the city, afterall...Portland is apparently one of the top "Greenest Cities"...
A former member
Post #: 49
I think the above is highly appropriate to forward-so thanks. I noticed the other day that
Royal River Natural Foods is selling nylon bags that zip up into a small parcel so it fits in your purse. For those of us who sometimes forget to take our larger cloth bags with us, it's a great way to always be prepared.

Lisa F.
Group Organizer
Portland, ME
Post #: 231
In the 90s I did a study of what was going on in several of the European countries where they were basically adopting a seller-pays or manufacturer-pays model of waste reduction. For example, if you made a product with x amount of packaging, you had to pay a certain fee (per weight of packaging that you were essentially putting into the market place) every year. Those fees went to fund recycling and other waste reduction efforts. BUT manufacturers and stores immediately became very creative and successful at reducing the packaging on their products. This way, the burden wasn't completely on the consumer.
francesco s.
user 3227838
Portland, ME
Post #: 13
Susannah was wrong. Jon (our district rep.) has not introduced this plastic bag tax legislation. The following is an email asking him to do so and thanking him for introducing the anti-idling bill. Maybe this will inspire you to write to your legislator?

Hi Jon,

Thank you so much for introducing the anti-idling bill. We'd love for you to introduce a bill to eliminate plastic bags. You may already know that in 2002 Ireland introduced the PlasTax (plastic-bag tax); every time a consumer is handed a plastic bag at a store the consumer is taxed 22 euros ($.29). We're sending you an article - "Breaking The Plastic Habit" - from Organic Gardening that illustrates the problem w/ plastic.

Another statistic comes from Harper's Index of Harper's Magazine which is that last year it took 16,000,000 barrels of oil to make the bottled-water containers in the U.S. and an average of 1,400,000 liters of water are delivered to U.S. troops in Iraq each day.

Also, assuming you're on board w/ this, the obvious refrain, or skip in the record, from detractors will probably be: "no more taxes!" People need a simple, unexpected, concrete, credible, emotional story (S.U.C.C.E.S.s) - from "Made To Stick, how some ideas survive and others die" by Dan and Chip Heath - to understand what taxes are. Show the skeptics that we pay dearly in other ways. When most of our tax $ goes to our military and the court system, most of us suffer. For a simple description of who benefits the most from our taxes, here is a George Lakoff (from the progressive think tank, Rockridge Institute) link from http://www.truthout.o...­

Show that petroleum-derived plastic is connected to this Administration's hunger for the rich oil resources in the Middle East. Do we have to wait till Nov. 2008 to see what our government policies will be like? Do more people have to die or be maimed so that our life style can continue?

As you may already know, there is still the problem of contaminating our soil and food w/ petro-fertilizers and GMO's and some of the vegetable-based plastics may come from these poisons.

We wish you and your family well.

In kindness and desperate for a life of quality for everyone,
Frank & Susannah
Ted M.
Brunswick, ME
Post #: 11
I think the above is highly appropriate to forward-so thanks. I noticed the other day that
Royal River Natural Foods is selling nylon bags that zip up into a small parcel so it fits in your purse. For those of us who sometimes forget to take our larger cloth bags with us, it's a great way to always be prepared.


Thanks for the plug, Winnie!

Hopefully the nylon bags will make their way to the register more than the standard cloth bags do. If I had a dime for every time a customer told me that they left their bag(s) in the car or at home...well, I wouldn't be rolling in dough, but I'd have a good chunk of change.

I also get the occasional customer from Europe who comments that they don't get offered bags there. They bring their own or they carry the goods home in their hands. What a concept!
user 3022592
Portland, ME
Post #: 89
Thanks all for the confirmation.

At the end of yoga class today I brought up what Sanskrit scholar Georg Feuerstein noted in his book Green Yoga about the toxicity of computers. Addressing practitioners of yoga to encourage them, as people who try to be mindful , to expand their mindfulness to this critical issue, I told them that Georg didn't propose any solutions!

It was clear that most of them already knew about the problem. One said that computers are simply stacked in the cellar of a certain place because it's costly to dispose of them properly (to be recycled.)

Only one person, married to an Englishman, mentioned what you described Lisa, -- how in England the producers are the ones who have to pay a fee.

Thanks so much for your letter to your rep, Susannah and Francesco! You're right, we can follow your example if we just take the time to do it as you did!

On this subject, here's an idea shared by Sally Chappell who regularly sends some of us emails on "Catholic Ecological Conversion." Her response to this NYTimes article about the tax on plastic bags was: "This article is very timely! I'm trying to organize a cloth bag campaign as a fundraiser for our youth ministry. It is one thing all of us can do that is not difficult or expensive."

Windham, ME
Post #: 11
Thanks Elaine:

I am going to forward both the article and Frank's & Susannah's letter to our Environmental organizer here at MPA.

Who knows we may be able to get on the Lobby Day Agenda!

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