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startup founder balance - biz/ideas <-> tech

From: elijah w.
Sent on: Saturday, June 23, 2012 10:31 AM
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Andy Matthews <[address removed]> wrote:

> Attacking a user who has a business idea because he didn't "approach" you
> the right way is a terrible way to build community and the tech scene in
> Nashville. I hope you can appreciate how it makes the people on this list
> look when they're seriously considering a topic on how to instruct potential
> employers on the proper way to approach an almighty Rails developer (sarcasm
> mine).

I think the discussion has moved beyond the original poster, now, to a
place where it's good to talk about people's experiences with business

From my point of view - once you've been exploited by someone who "has
a business idea" - you NEVER forget.  And I mean *never*.  And that
can be transitive to all future engagements, to be honest.  You get
super-wary, and suspicious, and think of yourself as having been
hopelessly naive about your insight into "people".   Some people
encourage having an attorney friend read all contracts, NDAs,
whatever, to look for ways you can get screwed - I'm not sure that's
really necessary, but it doesn't hurt.  And the extra caution is
certainly something that you learn as a survival skill.

Both sides of the community need education - folks in the business
world *need* help figuring out how to engage with this community -
it's actually very difficult, if they're nontechnical, given the
light-speed pace that things change - and this community has to pay
attention to how it markets itself to the rest of the world.  There is
certainly a gulf, and few people are good at bridging it.

I don't *think* that the vast majority of the Rails community has an
ego problem - rather, this is one of the nicer, most pleasant,
enjoyably-engaging groups of folks around.

> I'd like to remind you that while we are indeed the doers, and developers,
> we're nothing without an idea to implement. Entrepreneurs, marketers, and
> business people deserve a place at the table as much as we do.

And vis versa - which is why folks take it as mildly offensive to be
offered equity-as-pay and then have it suggested that you'll be
welcome to leave as soon as it's funded.

I feel bad about how the original poster got treated, so I'm going to
reach out to him and see what can be done to help.



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