im glad i don't need your permission to share my thoughts on a *discussion list*

but seriously man whats with this chip on your shoulder? are you like this in person?

has anybody met this guy at a meetup? did he walk around with a big frown and a dump in his pants?

On Apr 17, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Michael Mellinger wrote:

> I just asked if Flash was open source.  Wasn't looking for a long
> philosophical discussion.
> 
> A simple 'no' would have sufficed.
> 
> -Mike
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Ross Sclafani <[address removed]> wrote:
>> not completely yet, but its moving in that direction with a highly public commitment by adobe.
>> 
>> the real lesson in this is that flash and air technology are stepping away from dominating the web in favor of a more application-centric approach.
>> 
>> this is why steve jobs is trying to keep flash out of the ipod sandbox.
>> 
>> it has nothing to do with swf vs html5 and a lot more to do with swf vs. ipa
>> 
>> swf is still the choice for faithful recreation of visual design on the Web, and until @font-face happens and cross-browser rendering differences are greatly reduced if not eliminated that will remain the case.
>> 
>> as for interactivity, javascript is "good enough" with canvas and webgl to stand up to sophisticated actionscript user experiences, although from the developer's standpoint, as3 is a far more enjoyable and productive way to create reusable code and employ modern programming techniques.
>> 
>> bottom line is Web development is a headache. either you're dealing with cross-browser incompatibilities, ugly code, non-extensibility, inconsistent visual experiences or youre dealing with flash, with its own set of annoyances.
>> 
>> its a matter of visual control. the Web is not really meant to provide visual control, but rather access to information. this is why a visually oriented technology like flash has always been a shoehorn and met so much resistance. this is not going to change.
>> 
>> web designers willing to relinquish visual specificity will be content with the standards-based offerings, and enjoy all of their benefits to searchability, accessibility, etc.
>> web designers that want the exact control that flash offers are in fact application designers looking to deploy their applications on the web.
>> 
>> there is plenty of room for both, just not on the iPlatform.
>> 
>> but really mike, i don't understand your passion for this argument. is somebody trying to make you use flash?
>> 
>> _r
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2010, at 1:03 PM, Michael Mellinger wrote:
>> 
>>> So, it is open source?
>>> 
>>> https://en.wikiped...­
>>> 
>>> -Mike
> 
> 
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