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Re: [osm-nyc] Bicycle Parking points

From: Peter B.
Sent on: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:59 PM
Ahhh, the old opt-in or opt-out question. There an email digest option available at the bottom of each message...scroll down, follow the link, get one message a day, resume OSM focus.

Is there *right* OSM licensing solution to use the DOT data set as a navigational guide to verify said racks? Our emerging GPS Cyclist SIG likes to ride around, so have a cycling map party! 

Peter B

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Enrique <[address removed]> wrote:
I'm brand new at this, but I am very interested to learn as I have hundreds of miles of GPS tracks saved from all over the world. I don't mind receiving the emails, even if I don't understand a lot of what is going on.

I hate to sound like an idiot, but how would I see these bike rack locations on the map? I can't seem to find it anywhere!

Sorry in advance if the question is truly idiotic.

Best,

Enrique Edward Facundo Web Developer, eCommerce Specialist
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On 07/18/[masked]:10 PM, Serge wrote:
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:16:37PM -0400, Chris Mcnally wrote:
I'm a little confused by meetup.com, I thought this was a discussion
thread in our discussions space on meetup. I hope I am not spamming
everyone. Perhaps we should move our discussions there.
I made this list in order for the group to have a place to have an open discussion. Do 
you think this is a bad idea and we should separate out the list from the meetup?

I think having a free form discussion list is vital, but I'm welcome to it being 
another list than this one, if it really bothers people.

NYC is more open with their data these days. Check out this quote from the page

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/about/datafeeds.shtm
That page gives me a 404.

But looking here:
http://a841-dotweb01.nyc.gov/datafeeds/Disclaimer.htm

It says that any use of the NYC DOT data must come with a disclaimer, which says:

   Please transmit the following disclaimer when you utilize any DOT data in any 
   retransmission or application

   This application may contain and/or utilize information which was originally compiled 
   by the New York City Department of Transportation (DOT) for governmental purposes; 
   however, the information has subsequently been modified by entity/entities other than 
   DOT. DOT and the City of New York make no representation as to the accuracy or 
   usefulness of the information provided by this application or the information's 
   suitability for any purpose and disclaim any liability for omissions or errors that 
   may be contained therein. The public is advised to observe posted signage for 
   compliance with applicable laws and regulations.

I'm not sure exactly what that means in the context of OSM. We have this page:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright

and

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#United_States

But it's unclear from that disclaimer statement if mentioning on these pages is 
sufficient for inclusion in OSM or if it would need to be on every map all the time. 
If the later is the case, the license would be incompatible with OSM.

I've emailed the NYC DOT asking for the license and I'm waiting on their reply.

- Serge



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