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Re: [rlccef] Ryan Fact Check

From: Frank Z.
Sent on: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:04 PM
You missed the entire point Len.

That was not "my fact checker."  This is a thread to share information and communicate.  All you had to do was post your rebuttal without the personal attack.

If someone sees a NY Times, Wall Street Journal or any other article fact-checking Congressman Ryan's Convention Address, please post it.  Objectivism teaches me to use inductive reasoning to make decisions.  Therefore, I want to see and hear data, integrate it to information, then to intelligence and ultimately to wisdom.  Pretty sure some of the evidence will taste good, some of it will taste bad; other evidence will smell good or smell bad.  I also realize this is a touchy subject.  :)  (Good thing I am on lunch break here.)

Thank you for the data you shared Len.

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Len Lemmer <[address removed]> wrote:
I find your use of "liberal fact checkers" philosphically inconsistent. I
guess when you are pushing a radical ideology, any rationale will do.
Let me address "your" unbiased "fact checkers.
1) Debt Commission. It is true that Representative Ryan voted against
the Debt Commission final report. However, he constructed and submitted
a Debt Commission final report of his own. Somehow, I missed the Obama's
final report or the legislative proposal derived from it.
2) Your fact checkers blamed the Congress for the impasse that caused the
credit downgrade. Are you seriously expecting us to believe this? The President
whose budgets never garnered a single vote from his own pary had nothing to
do with our credit downgrade? Please!
3) As far as Medicare is concerned the Affordable Care Act says on page 1324
that $716 billion dollrs will be taken from Medicare to fund Obamacare. These cuts
may be to hospitals and doctors, but guess what? These cuts will be recouped from seniors through other means, or the doctors and hospitals will simply refuse Medicare
My point is simple: Politifact is not a honest broker, they are a liberal mouthpiece.
Using them as a source is an insult. Why do you not just quote the New York Times?
Len J. Lemmer
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Frank Zilaitis <[address removed]> wrote:
Last night I tried not to laugh too hard hearing what I believed to be some pretty tall tales told by Congressman Ryan.  The scary part is the mob reaction applause that makes the tales sound credible.  I was sorry that I hadn't taken notes and wrote my own rebuttal to Congressman Ryan.  As the Internet would have it, someone else chose to write the rebuttal for which I am grateful.

At this point, I am really ashamed of what has happened and what is happening at the convention this week.

From my conscience to yours,  

Frank Zilaitis

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