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RE: Amnesty attempt again and again

From: user 7.
Sent on: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 4:10 PM

James, your assumptions are false.  You simplistically add up job numbers, assuming that (a) each illegal immigrant working just takes a job from an American, and his labor does not grow the economy and his consumption does not contribute to any other people’s livelihoods and all those jobs were ones that Americans would have been willing to take, and (b) each job offshored is simply a job lost, and the cheaper goods don’t contribute to anyone’s well-being and the larger companies resulting don’t result in any more jobs domestically and neither do the resulting increases in import and export business or in retailing.  Just to note a few obvious problems with your math.  This would be a much more sensible country if more people were literate in economics.


i4freedom, you believed that stuff?  Those “statistics” aren’t even plausible, much less true.  Check Snopes for some enlightenment on it.  And don’t be so gullible.




On Fri, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:43 PM, James Reid wrote:


FIrst there is NO spoken opinion on this but here are some real numbers...form your own.
attached is the DHS estimates of illegal foreign workers in the US (california) to 2008  > 11.6 million (2.56 million) <
and the US DOL number of lost US Jobs to off-shore (non-US) workers up to real 2004(est. 2009)> 20.7 million (28.1 million) <
I think that adds up to a loss of around just under 40 million paying jobs up to 2009.


On Fri, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:12 PM, i4freedom wrote:


The effects of illegal immigration:  This does not include the effects of legal immigration.  Can it be opposite or otherwise very different?

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