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RE: [SDNC-Brights] FW: [Atheist_Coalition] Kathy Griffin may not be as annoying as originally thought!

From: Geoffrey
Sent on: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:21 PM

Hmm, I wish I could have been there for that discussion.  I’d like to see some input from those who attended the Brights meeting. 


The quickie search for the definitions of morals and ethics seems to put morals in a case by case category; one moral for one act, whereas ethics seemed more likely to be defined as a system of morals.






And go Kathy!  




PS – I got to send a door-to-door evangelist away with a big smile and a “No thanks, we’re very excited to be Atheists and we’re actually running late for our Atheist convention!”


Sometimes I get a response like “You have a convention?”  and I’ll say “Yeah, thousands!  Want to see it?”


No bites yet, but a few precious looks on their faces.



From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of bijou juju
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, [masked]:52 PM
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [SDNC-Brights] FW: [Atheist_Coalition] Kathy Griffin may not be as annoying as originally thought!


               Yeah  -  very  cool of Kathy  -  very 'stand up' of her !!!


But two things vex  me about it . . . .


This was at the Emmy Awards - "the industry "  -  people who pride themselves on being forward-thinking,  innovative,  rule-breakers, and 'in-your-face'.  Were  these  people offended by Kath's speech???  If in fact, they were  offended, then we atheists have deluded ourselves about how much acceptance  atheists have achieved!


Secondly  -  my intuition tells me the audience had no problem with Kathy's speech,  that it was the  press  , that pimped it out to the public.  Instead of 'informing', the press deliberately 'inflamed' the issue !   People will see the headlines and be glad they have been  'enlightened'  as how to think!    Saves them a lot of time  and confusion !!!


Oh  -  and at the Brights' Meeting Monday night, we discussed the derivation of the words 'moral' and 'ethics'.  With ethics being a deliberately thought out conclusion, and morals being of a religious/biblical nature,  I am  PROUD to say,  I am amoral !!!

                                     I'm not  cheap,  -  but I am  reasonable !!!


                                                                                       Kiss Kiss !





Geoffrey <> wrote:

Yea for Kathy!  And for Atheists!

From: [] On Behalf Of Ryan Smith
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:05 AM
Subject: [Atheist_Coalition] Kathy Griffin may not be as annoying as originally thought!

CNN link:

In her speech, Griffin said that "a lot of people come up here and
thank Jesus for this award. I want you to know that no one had less to
do with this award than Jesus."

She went on to hold up her Emmy, make an off-color remark about Christ
and proclaim, "This award is my god now!"

I don't see how what she said is "hate speech" as cited in the
article. But it is VERY refreshing to hear this, even if it is from
Kathy Griffin. (ok, enough ripping on her, she has my respect now)



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