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The Singapore Linux Meetup Group Message Board › Notes from the Oct Meetup - Seeking inputs

Notes from the Oct Meetup - Seeking inputs

Darrel C.
darrelchua
Singapore, SG
Post #: 30
Hi all,

Please find below the notes from the Oct meetup. We are now requesting comments from you members to further refine our plan for future activities. As this is open community, we are seeking everyone's contribution to make SLMG better. Special thanks to all who attended and Dyana for taking the draft notes.




Date: 18 oct 2006
Time: 1930 - 2130
Venue: SMU

Attendees:
Darrel
Lionel
Julian
Dyana
Yu Guo
Martin
Brian
Cher Hock

1. SLMG has dwindled; what to do about it?
- lost interest?
- too complicated?
- lost priority
- Need projects that involve members and that might help to regain interest in meetup group

2. Trying to work with companies (eg HP, IBM) to donate old PCs to do refurbishment of PCs and install Linux for charities of schools.
- Martin shared his experience from Europe
- They were able to circumvent security issues with them because they can just take out hard drives before giving to us; running thin clients with remote terminals/mount
- Martin suggested we could work with companies that refurbish old PC to reduce resource drain on SLMG

3. Many other linux-related groups in SG, eg LUGS; should try to pool resources and team up with them for projects

4. National schools linux quiz/skills competition
- SLMG, in conjunction with other groups can help set questions as well as judging
- Target different levels : secondary, tertiary institutions (JC, Polys)
- very difficult to run an accurate question-answer situation; should run more like RH or Cisco qualifications
- we should run it to be distro-independent
- NSS already in place for there to be in a lab setup situation; open-ended questions about different distros
- sign-up rate/popularity for this competition?
- groups/teams to participate to prevent prodigies from blowing everyone out?
- prior to competition, run classes/workshops?

5. 'Linuxfest' - (final name TBD)
- Suggestion instead of rigid presentation/workshop/conference, just to have a Public open, free-flow day for people to try out linux. large public place with PC, security, linux apps, pizzas
- how do we get people to come (aside from the people already interested; ie, those people planning the whole event?). The venue should be public and openly accessible, inviting.
- linux event should be just promoted to EVERYONE - not exclude adults or kids
- Givewaway liveCDs - from Ubuntu or other distros
- informality of linux is the greatest aspect
- linux gathering/social gather with linux in it - not just a linux teaching thing
- applications, not operating systems, the key issue with propagation of Linux (esp proprietary software written by corps)
- Hold mini linux competition on graphics, music and gaming
- WCG-style sponsorships
- infrastructure - network, electricity, etc.

6. talking to other niche groups (mysql, etc) and other regional groups for linux
- joint activities

7. format of linux meetup
- change of format? Suggestion is to add half hour of free flow activities and set up wireless LAN
- ushers to greet and direct members attending the meetup
- talk to SMU about network connections
- Need to add Linux Clinic - help for people with linux problems. Free Linux suport from SLMG to home users. There was idea to set up site that could match people to nearest linux specialist (by postal code?)

8. it's easy to get support from the big players as long as we have clear objectives and plans
- more links to Suse, HP, IBM

9. Have special interest subgroups - Linux jobs/linux business/enterprise
- networking/talks by corps etc to get people into Linux as a business idea

10. Need more volunteers and helpers as all these cannot be executed by Organizers alone.

End of meeting (#10)
Jameel
jameelh
Singapore, SG
Post #: 23
Darrel

The "Linuxfest" idea sounds great, perhaps all of the members could try to look out for potential sponsors, business gaining revenue from Linux could be the target and guys selling PC's with Linux os, (Acer, eSYS Global) could loan systems for the road show.

Let's set a target date and work towards it, we'll discuss more in the next meetup.

Cheers
Jameel
Ray
schivmeister
Singapore, SG
Post #: 1
Hi

This looks old but since this is my first post, I'll make it a useful one and an indication that I'm active and not a bot :) Don't know what you guys have been discussing or what conclusions came out of them, here goes anyway.

(3) - These groups need to find a common platform. It seems everyone is divided and the gap between real users (desktop) and technical users is _very_ significant. So far I think only this meetup group (maybe the SUSE one also) and the SGLNX community forum can be considered active. LUGS on the other hand is nowhere beyond stagnant. Before any resources can be pooled, any projects can be carried out, there needs to be unity and activity.

(4) - how is it significant since 90% (social statistics) of sub-varsity level (Primary, Secondary, Junior College, Polytechnique) students are unaware of OSS? We need to educate the SCHOOLS first before the students. Even in Polys, where it is famed to be the hub of IT, the amount of interest in OSS is disappointing.

We need to concentrate on the bare foundation of the education sector before we can expect responses to such a competition.

As for the questions, I don't think they pose any problem. IMO, they _should_ include distro-dependent questions so as to test the participants' versatility and radii of knowledge. Examples would be which distro uses what init system, where in x distro can u find such and such config files, which package manager is used by majority of the distros, and also non-technical questions like which ideology belongs to which distro.

It is a known fact that most Linux users in SG got acquainted with the term through varsity or work. Furthermore, how many actually "use" GNU/Linux? You can't say you use Linux if you administer a server using GNU tools and Linux kernels, because it's inherently an obligation and nothing much of will. So to start off, how do you think OSS can be "taught" to schools below University level? In other words, make known of its presence.

(7) - Linux Clinic sounds good.

If my stance looks out of place, do pardon me. I haven't attended a single meetup so I might've missed out on some good pointers and news biggrin Please update topic with the progress if any.
Tom G.
tomgohj
Group Organizer
Singapore, SG
Post #: 60
Hi All,

I would like to suggest broadening our scope from Linux to Open Source in general. I think that most of us are open source supporters rather than just Linux supporters. There have been so many groups in meetup.com that revolve around other open source project and they eventually fizzle out. Encompassing a greater audience is likely to keep the momentum going if not drive it.

I think we could really expand our membership and bring greater awareness to the Linux and open source if we became all encompassing.

FYI, I am allowed a total of 3 groups in mettup.com

I am going to suggest opensource.meetup.com

Anyone got any ideas for another group?


Tom
Tom G.
tomgohj
Group Organizer
Singapore, SG
Post #: 61
Hi,

For the Linux fest, I am already talking to one of the big PC companies.

What we need is the pitch as to how it will benefit them.

so far this is what I have got:

- Word of mouth marketing - people using their computers during Linux fest and seeing how nice it is...
- Targeting Univerisitys and Polytechnics, etc
- Anyone know roughly our demographic? Students, SMB, etc.

Let me know your thought

Tom
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