Re: [silvafug-events] Re: [silvafug] Adobe's announcement on the future of Flex

From: Leds Usop J.
Sent on: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:03 PM
Hey Doug,

Fan of your work at Spatial key and your work... just curious if you guys are moving over your entire visualization stack to html5? If yes (or if you have already done it), did you use any existing frameworks? and which ones?

Sorry for hijacking this thread guys, we are also on the same boat and we want to have as much input as we can in pursuing third party frameworks to help us migrate our UI.

thanks!

best
Leds


From: Doug McCune <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Monday, November 14,[masked]:52 PM
Subject: Re: [silvafug-events] Re: [silvafug] Adobe's announcement on the future of Flex

Let me google that for you...

  1. Do percentage based layouts?

http://24ways.org/examples/intricate-fluid-layouts/complex-layout-example.html
 
  1. Does HTML 5 have equivalent form objects, and a framework to extend on those form objects?

http://jqueryui.com/
http://dojotoolkit.org/widgets
http://www.sencha.com/products/extjs/
 
  1. Does HTML 5 have a data grid and an advanced data grid (that again is extendable) with item renders for in cell editing? Maybe there is, Google docs has spreadsheets?????

http://livedocs.dojotoolkit.org/dojox/grid/index?action=show&redirect=dojox/grid
http://www.trirand.net/demophp.aspx
http://loianegroner.com/2009/12/getting-started-with-extjs-datagrid/ 
http://dojotoolkit.org/grids-charts

  1. Does HTML 5 have an awesome charting framework for doing data visualization?

http://mbostock.github.com/d3/
http://raphaeljs.com/
 
There are a lot of things missing that you're used to, and there are a lot of things that aren't nearly as easy to work with. But the answers to your questions are mostly yes. Are they as mature and easy to work with as the Flex framework? No, probably not. Are you going to fight against browser incompatibilities for the foreseeable future? Yes. Are you going to wince in pain a lot and wish you could go back to the good old days of writing Flex apps? Yup. But it is what it is. Your life just got harder. But on the plus side, the JavaScript world is advancing at a much faster pace than the Flex/Flash/Actionscript world has been over the past few years (note I say faster *pace*, I'm specifically talking about the rate of change). Sure, it'll take many years before things work as well and are as easy as you're used to. But again, it is what it is, and no amount of us bitching about it is going to make a difference.




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