This is a group for folks who appreciate the old tube frame vw based sand rails sand buggies. Now that being said...anything goes, Mild to Wild.... Mid-Travel, long travel, water pumper, turbo, Ls motors, supercharger, A arm cars, retired desert racers..etc etc. but ABSOLUTELY NO SXS UTV’s. There’s plenty of groups for them, this group is for people who like to build there own cars and continually modify and improve there setup to achieve the next level of performance whether it be horsepower, suspension or just making it work better for what they do. This is a group for Rails!! When it comes down to bang for the buck, Nothing compares to a rail for flexibility capabilities and pure enjoyment, closest comparision I personaly can make is an adventure bike of sorts but way more comfortable, capable of carrying gear and stable at a third of the cost.