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Re: [atheists-501] politicians and d3sj: Is there a pattern here?

From: Steve H.
Sent on: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:29 AM
My initial thought was that the results mentioned were mere coincidence.  One of my closest friends was Kate Jones' campaign manager and he never indicated to me that there looked like being a swing towards her because she spoke at d3sj.  I personally did a bit of work ifor the ALP in Indooroopilly and never heard people talk about dumping Ronan Lee because he didn't.
On reflection, however, I'm wondering whether the data points towards the hypothesis that people tend to vote for people who honour their commitments.
Steve Hannington.
----- Original Message -----
From: geoffrey
Sent: Friday, March 27,[masked]:46 PM
Subject: [atheists-501] politicians and d3sj: Is there a pattern here?

Here's food for thought:
Rachel Nolan, MP for Ipswich, spoke to our group in 2006. She has just been appointed Minister for Transportation
Andrew McNamara, former MP for Hervey Bay, was due to speak to our group in May 2007 but pulled out. He recently lost his seat
Kate Jones, MP for Ashgrove, spoke to our group in 2008. She has just been appointed Minister for Climate Change and Sustainability
Ronan Lee, former MP for Indooroopilly, was due to speak to our group earlier this year but pulled out at the last minute. He  recently lost his seat.
Reminder for 8 April

D3SJ* meeting 8 April 2009:

Cuba: Back to the Future

A model of a resilient and sustainable society?

Our April meeting will examine in greater detail two themes previously explored: the model of Cuba as a society which successfully overcame the challenges of Peak Oil and the principles of sustainable living as outlined by Dr. David Wyatt, a multidisciplinary scientist and successful entrepreneur who advised on the design of (and who lives in) the Currumbin Ecovillage (please see details of May and August 2008 meetings in the "past meetings" section of

Based on David?s recent 5 week study tour of Cuba, this presentation will explore sustainability aspects of current Cuban society including agriculture, transport, education, energy, water, social change and politics. Cuba has withstood relentless pressure and trade boycotts from the USA since the Castro revolution 50 years ago. Cuba also survived a crisis when the Soviet bloc and related trade collapsed in the 1990s. This shock forced a dramatic rethink of agriculture and transport when Soviet oil imports dried up overnight. Is Cuba a useful model for a future world constrained by oil and resources?

Date & time: Wednesday 8 April 2009

5.30pm - biscuits, coffee/tea

6.00pm - presentations & discussion

7.15pm - meeting concludes - enthusiastic participants are encouraged to continue discussion over dinner at another venue

Venue: Sullivan Nicolaides Pathology Boardrooms, 134 Whitmore St (Swann Rd end), Taringa. Go to reception (off upper car park) & signs will direct from there.

Parking is available on site (upper car park- anywhere there is a space or lower car parks in the non reserved spaces).There's also plenty of nearby on-street parking (with no meters/time limit) at that time of day.

Who should attend: Any intelligent person interested in the common good.

Cost: FREE!

* Doctors and Scientists for Sustainability and Social Justice:

We invite participation from all members of the public who agree with the medical and scientific principles that we should use evidence, reason and fairness as the primary means to address the issues facing society

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