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Would you eat GMO food?

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  • Europe prohibits GMO foods.  The US and much of the rest of the world, has been using GMO seeds in farming.

    What are the downsides to GMO?  What are the benefits?

    Are less pesticides used as a result of GMO seeds?

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  • Samuel

    Please stop conflating one class of GMOs with others when discussing their completely different social goals and outcomes.

    The class you both have brought up are mainly GMOs given a specific herbicide or pesticide resistance and sold with that 'cide, the most famous example being Roundup Ready (but there are many others). By math/physics alone it can be shown that this will increase use of the product unless some kind of regulation is enforced, though it also increases yield, but only for farms that can afford the product every year -- this is not some charity project like Golden Rice.

    Which brings us to Golden Rice, one of another class of GMOs. They use a similar genetic procedure as above, but this time to produce a nutrient.

    Keep in mind that there are many many more classes, and both of the above also have subcategories based on social goals and outcomes: for every Golden Rice there is a commercial project with no intention of improving nutrition or sustenance at low cost.

    November 29

    • Samuel

      Fwiw: my first sentence refers to material in two previous comments that was apparently deleted about a day after this was posted.

      6 days ago

  • Jim B

    Sorry for the late notice. I've rescheduled this to Dec 13th. I have a cold.

    November 29

  • Samuel

    Then there's the class of GMOs that is actually supposed to reduce the use of 'cides. Roundup Ready, etc., were advertised as such and as I said are easily proved both in theory and practice to not do so. The actual way it's done is by having the organism produce its own repellent or 'cide. Nature has many ways of doing this and not all have been tried in the GMO industry yet -- some would only require a percentage of the crops in the field to be insecticidal, for example.

    A specific example is a potato plant developed ~20 years ago with a sticky smelly secretion from its leaves, so insects climbing it would get stuck and die and/or quickly learn to stay away. The gene for making the leaf goo came straight from another plant that they could have cross-bred with the potato and hoped that, after thousands of tries, a lucky meiosis would give them most of the potato genes with the sticky goo gene spliced in. In the lab they basically used the exact same machinery as nature.

    November 29

  • Bonnie K

    I apologize that I'm not going to be able to make it tonight after all. I'm in the suburbs with a flat tire in the cold rain. I hope to be able to join you another time.

    November 29

  • Maggie

    Unfortunately, all of us US guinea pigs have been eating GMO's for years now. The USDA sold us down the river and, thanks to Monsanto and bigAgra, we know less and less about what's in seemingly 'healthy' food. I spend the extra for Certified Organic and Non-GMO when no Organic option exists. I get a lot of info on the OCA site at https://www.organicconsumers.org/ Wish I could join this discussion, but have a conflict. Enjoy!

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