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The Will to Power 2

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    (between N. Sierra Madre & Eloise Ave)
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  • Since we didn’t manage to finish the discussion of the will to power last time, we are going to meet again this month to continue the conversation. For those who didn't make it to our last meeting, here is a quick recap. To reflect the diversity of Nietzsche’s ideas on the idea of will to power, specifically for this topic, we do not pick one single reference for our discussion. Instead, we ask all the participants to pick one of their own and prepare to discuss it in the meeting. To avoid overlap, I appreciate it if you post the fragment you choose to talk about in the comments below. You can still choose to talk about a piece that is selected and posted by another participant and, as always, we welcome those who attend mainly to listen to the conversations.

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  • Anthony A.

    Sorry everyone. Starting a new job that takes up Sundays, so I won't be able to attend these and other meet ups for a while. I will miss you all for the time being. Later.

    6h ago

  • Amjad

    Please note the change in the date of the meeting. We usually meet on the 4th or final Sunday of each month. This month that would overlap with thanksgiving. So in our last meeting we decided to do it on November 20. However, during the last couple of days, I realized that a significant number of our usual attendants are shared with the history meetup that would overlap with ours if we meet on Nov 20. So I thought to switch to first Sunday of December instead. Let me know if this new time works better. Sorry for the inconvenience.

    November 16

  • Amjad

    I will talk about Part II chapter 12 of Thus Spoke Zarathustra (On Self-Overcoming). You can find a free pdf of the whole book online (for example here: http://nationalvanguard.org/books/Thus-Spoke-Zarathustra-by-F.-Nietzsche.pdf). I try to contrast the application of Will to Power in the case of living things in general and in the case of human societies, using ideas from Michel Foucault.

    November 12

    • George

      Hi Amjad,

      November 12

    • Anthony A.

      I'm sorry I can't make it. Last time, Amjad was gracious in being the last to speak about his topic and we were going to continue in this upcoming discussion, with his talk. I also remember agreeing to George's recommendation, to focus on these specific readings in the Will to Power. The chance for some in depth study with someone leading a substantial reading seems a very worthwhile endeavor; I voted for it, and don't take George's effort for granted because I know this volunteer work takes time. But, it looks like we have these two topics, plus again the freedom for anyone willing to come, to have the freedom to add a new topic, which seems just, and is very good too. Hopefully this will not detract from the main group who came last time (plus others), from continuing on this subject that easily extends across two meetings. Sorry again. Hope to see you all soon.

      November 14

  • George

    Based on my memory at the last group meeting on October 30th, I recall that the majority of members voted to have one common reading for November 20th group meeting, and that was from Nietzsche's unpublished aphorisms before he died, that were translated, edited and compiled in Walter Kaufmann's book "The Will to Power." Because the book is quite long, then the group member decided to read only the Sub-Book III, "Principles of a New Evaluations" Chapter I, "The Will to Power as Knowledge" from aphorism 466, sub-chapter 1 "Method of Inquiry" to aphorism 552, under sub-chapter 8, "Against Causalism." Keep in mind, the book "The Will to Power" translated and edited by Walter Kaufmann is available free on the internet in pdf format. Use the "Table of Contents" at beginning of the book to find "Sub-Book III" and sub-chapters 1 through 8 for reading. In addition, we still had Amjad's reading from "Thus, Spoke Zarathustra" which we did not have time to discuss at the last group meeting.

    November 12

    • Amjad

      There must have been a misunderstanding. You can prepare to talk about that portion of that book, George (and also anyone else who wants can do the same). But those who prefer another aphorism on the general topic of the will to power, including me, can talk about the fragment they prefer.

      November 12

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    I'm a philosophy enthusiast. What brought me to Nietzsche was my search for a rational framework... more

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