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Active Thinkers For & Against

1. Introduction

1. This Adelaide meetup is about thinking and big ideas. The organizer has wide interests himself, but has found in the past that social interest topics rather than more specialized scientific or technical topics attract wider participation. The quality of the discussion depends on (and varies) with whoever happens to turn up. Everyone is expected to take an active part.

Simple opinions are often lazy. The organizer of Active Thinkers For & Against (Thor) hopes to find people who will put a little time and mental energy into exploring all sorts of challenging ideas. For him this is a kind of sport. People with curious minds who can see both sides of an argument and are genial enough to agree to disagree sometimes are especially welcome. In fact, expect to be challenged occasionally to offer an argument against your own preferred viewpoint ^_^ . If your background is not Australian, this cultural style might be a bit confusing at first. Don’t be offended by open disagreement. It takes all kinds of people to make the world go around.

Please go through the remarks and some links in the 'comments' section of each topic before you come (scroll down the meetup web page). Reading links are added over the two weeks before we meet. You are welcome to add links too. It becomes a better discussion if everyone has researched a little background information first.

You can see a list of previous topics discussed at http://thormay.net/unwiseideas/DiscussionTopics/DiscussionIndex.htm (This is in old form html at the moment, so hard to read on a small screen).  This group also has a Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1668079356593059/

2.  Time and Venue

Active Thinkers may run as either an online Zoom meetup, or as a cafe meetup. Most recently Zoom meetups have run on Tuesday evenings, 6pm to 8 pm. Cafe meetings, when we have them, have been in the Cafe Brunelli, Rundle St, Adelaide CBD, Any cafe meetup will probably be on Monday evenings, 6:30 pm to 8:30 pm. This is negotiable according to attendee preferences and available venues.

The meetup asks for a $2 donation. That helps to pay meetup.com in New York for a website subscription of about A$160 every 6 months. Either bring a $2 coin (for a café meetup) or you can transfer $2 to my account using Pay ID. To send money you just need my mobile number: 0479 154 831. (Every Australian bank has a Pay ID phone app to download).

See you soon,   Thor
thormay@yahoo.com
https://independent.academia.edu/ThorMay [.. about 150 articles by Thor]
https://youtu.be/OmGVsC7OshA  [5 minute video of Thor teaching English in China, 2010]

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Topic: "Are We All A Little Mad?" [Zoom]

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Focus questions

[Note: Extra reading links for this topic are in our companion Facebook Group at https://www.facebook.com/events/463824175693935?ref=newsfeed . Scroll past the focus questions]

1. Are some people less sane than others, without being insane? How would you define a sane person?

2. Do we make a distinction in social practice between someone 'having mental illness' and someone who is 'insane' or 'mad'?

3. Having any kind of power is a giddy responsibility which unbalances most people to some extent. At what point can we say that the misuse of power becomes some form of mental illness? Examples?

4. What kind of mental imbalances can or should lead the state to legally intervene to save an individual from themselves, or from interfering with others?

5. How does culture, religion and/or politics colour perceptions of who is mentally ill, or who is 'insane'? Examples?

6. Most officially recognized mental conditions occur across a spectrum from mild to severe, and also affect individuals ranging from very low IQs to 'high functioning'. What are examples of individuals operating mentally outside the range of 'normal' human behaviours but actually managing successful careers and life patterns?

7. Why is it that the incidence of certain types of mental distress such as 'anxiety' and 'depression', as well as extreme anti-social behaviour, is more common amongst the young than the old?

8. Maybe most of us go through periods of erratic or demoralized behaviour, sometimes for a very short time, in some cases for months or years .... then recover balance. This can test the tolerance of friends, employers and others. How should we 'others' handle a person who seems to have 'gone off the rails' for a while?

9. It is common in marriages for partners to grow in different directions over time. Sometimes this leads to pathological, damaging relationships which are nevertheless preserved by both parties. What are some common examples of mutually damaging but continuing types of marriages/relationships?

10. How often do individuals themselves recognize that they are mentally ill or 'mad', and how often does it take the intervention of outsiders to declare that an individual is mentally ill? Are the outcomes different for self-recognition and imposed judgement? Examples?
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## The Active Thinkers For & Against Meetup is Moving

The Active Thinkers For & Against meetup is about to move away from meetup.com to a Facebook Group at www.facebook.com/groups/[masked]/ . PLEASE GO TO THE FACEBOOK GROUP AND REJOIN THERE. I can’t move you automatically. This move has been forced on us by meetup.com deleting menu features we need. The Facebook Group will be free to attend. Please send any messages directly to me at [masked], NOT to the meetup.com message service.

Meetup.com has gone into steep decline. It’s advantage was its wide reach locally & internationally, and focused attention on meetup members needs. It’s service isn’t cheap (about AUD$160 every six months). The organization’s beginning was socially idealistic. It was taken over by a unicorn (billion dollar company), then suffered management loss + a loss of programmers. WeWork went bankrupt and meetup.com was apparently then taken over by a group of six investors who are trying to get their money back. Attempting to communicate with meetup.com I get contradictory replies, or no reply at all. Without notice to customers they have just deleted the ‘comments’ section in Events and refuse to put it back. We need the ‘comments’ feature, especially for extra reading links on each topic. Facebook is not everybody’s favourite company either, but at least Facebook Groups is free.

On the Facebook Groups Events page for each topic you will be able to see the extra reading links added after the general ‘description’ part for that event. As before, extra reading links may be added in the two weeks prior to each event. You are always welcome to send me extra links too.
See you again soon at the Facebook Group, Active Thinkers For & Against, www.facebook.com/groups/[masked]/ .

Take care,
Thor

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Active Thinkers is moving - see details below

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The Active Thinkers For & Against Meetup is Moving

The Active Thinkers For & Against meetup is about to move away from meetup.com to a Facebook Group at www.facebook.com/groups/[masked]/ . PLEASE GO TO THE FACEBOOK GROUP AND REJOIN THERE. I can’t move you automatically. This move has been forced on us by meetup.com deleting menu features we need. The Facebook Group will be free to attend. Please send any messages directly to me at [masked], NOT to the meetup.com message service.

Meetup.com has gone into steep decline. It’s advantage was its wide reach locally & internationally, and focused attention on meetup members needs. It’s service isn’t cheap (about AUD$160 every six months). The organization’s beginning was socially idealistic. It was taken over by a unicorn (billion dollar company), then suffered management loss + a loss of programmers. WeWork went bankrupt and meetup.com was apparently then taken over by a group of six investors who are trying to get their money back. Attempting to communicate with meetup.com I get contradictory replies, or no reply at all. Without notice to customers they have just deleted the ‘comments’ section in Events and refuse to put it back. We need the ‘comments’ feature, especially for extra reading links on each topic. Facebook is not everybody’s favourite company either, but at least Facebook Groups is free.

On the Facebook Groups Events page for each topic you will be able to see the extra reading links added after the general ‘description’ part for that event. As before, extra reading links may be added in the two weeks prior to each event. You are always welcome to send me extra links too.
See you again soon at the Facebook Group, Active Thinkers For & Against, www.facebook.com/groups/[masked]/ .

Take care,
Thor
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Active Thinkers is moving - see details below

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The Active Thinkers For & Against Meetup is Moving

The Active Thinkers For & Against meetup is about to move away from meetup.com to a Facebook Group at www.facebook.com/groups/[masked]/ . PLEASE GO TO THE FACEBOOK GROUP AND REJOIN THERE. I can’t move you automatically. This move has been forced on us by meetup.com deleting menu features we need. The Facebook Group will be free to attend. Please send any messages directly to me at [masked], NOT to the meetup.com message service.

Meetup.com has gone into steep decline. It’s advantage was its wide reach locally & internationally, and focused attention on meetup members needs. It’s service isn’t cheap (about AUD$160 every six months). The organization’s beginning was socially idealistic. It was taken over by a unicorn (billion dollar company), then suffered management loss + a loss of programmers. WeWork went bankrupt and meetup.com was apparently then taken over by a group of six investors who are trying to get their money back. Attempting to communicate with meetup.com I get contradictory replies, or no reply at all. Without notice to customers they have just deleted the ‘comments’ section in Events and refuse to put it back. We need the ‘comments’ feature, especially for extra reading links on each topic. Facebook is not everybody’s favourite company either, but at least Facebook Groups is free.

On the Facebook Groups Events page for each topic you will be able to see the extra reading links added after the general ‘description’ part for that event. As before, extra reading links may be added in the two weeks prior to each event. You are always welcome to send me extra links too.
See you again soon at the Facebook Group, Active Thinkers For & Against, www.facebook.com/groups/[masked]/ .

Take care,
Thor
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