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EEStor Update

From: user 6.
Sent on: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 12:17 PM
In the previous update, the attached article gave two milestones:

1)  having at-voltage components verified independently by September of this year
2)  delivery of production prototype EESU to Zenn Motors by the end of 2009

Well, September has come and gone.  and... (drumroll)   There has been no demo or verification of at-voltage components.

(heavy sigh)


So, has anything happened in the past few months?

There have been a few interesting developments (all verified by the named parties):

1)  EEStor has contracted with Polarity Inc.  (www.polarity.net) to produce the converter needed to change the very high, variable voltage on the raw ultracapacitor, into the lower, fixed voltage needed by the electric car.  Polarity, Inc. is an established leader in high voltage, high power supplies of this sort.

2)  UL (Underwriters Laboratories, Inc.) has received a request from EEStor to certify their product.

3)  U. S. Patent #7,595,109 B2 was issued covering EEStor's product and manufacturing process.  I haven't gone through the patent myself, but those who have say its complete enough to try building a unit.
 
4)  Zenn Motor Company (who owns 10% of EEStor) has announced that they will NOT be making a car based on EEStor's product.  Instead, they will be making electric drivetrains to sell to other car manufacturers.
 
 
 
So where is my opinion now?   I am tilting slightly toward the "scam" side of the fence, but remain firmly on the fence, completely ready to believe either real or scam.
 

Steve Barbie




----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Barbie
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, [masked]:49 PM
Subject: Some new data from EEStor!


Well...not new data, actually.  But it is a new promise to "put up or shut up" by the end of this year.

I've been watching regularly for anything new on EEStor.  Last spring there was an announcement about permittivity testing results - it showed some definite improvement over previous technologies, but it didn't show enough to finally say "yes, it works". 

Since then, there has been nothing - new articles and blog postings appear just about every day, but no new information.  Just "believers and nonbelievers dancing on the head of a pin".

This article (attached) is the first new piece of actual information in 3 months.  If they don't find some way to wiggle out of it, it means (for better or worse) the wait will be over by the end of this year.

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Some background for those unfamiliar with EEStor:

EEStor is a small company in Texas who, a few years ago, claimed to have invented a new technology for electrical energy storage.  It is an ultracapacitor-based technology with performance specs that completely blows away anything we have today in battery technology. 

Everyone agrees that if EEStor's technology is for real, it will be a MAJOR game changer in the electric car and alternative energy industries.  The disagreement (and there is a lot of it!) is on the question of whether the technology is for real.  EEStor has been extremely secretive all along, leading to massive speculation that it could be a scam.  On the other hand, there are some very credible players working with or investing in EEStor (Kleiner-Perkins, Lockheed-Martin).

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My own opinion?  After following this for the past few years, I am firmly on the fence.  I am perfectly ready to accept that it is real, and I am also perfectly ready to accept that it is a scam.

Steve Barbie

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