INTRODUCING THE PHILOSOPHERS Nietzsche: Eternal Recurrence and Amor Fati
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Please note this meetup is on Wednesday, 10th December.
For Nietzsche the concepts of eternal recurrence and amor fati are connected. We will therefore have a look at both starting with the former.
A. Eternal Recurrence
The quotes in italics below are taken from the link. Only the quote in question 7 is taken from Nietzsche's writings.
https://philosophybreak.com/articles/eternal-recurrence-what-did-nietzsche-really-mean/
1. The following quote is to start us thinking.
In other words, if you were to discover that every moment of your life, all its joys, all its pains, every rush of excitement and every long day of boredom, was to recur in sequence again and again, was to repeat for eternity — how would you react? Would you be pleased? Would you be crushed? Would it impact how you lived the rest of your life?
2. In what sense would eternal recurrence be a litmus test of an individual's capacity to affirm life?
3. Do you think that believing in eternal recurrence would make us live differently from the way we would live without it?
4. What does, 'being truly authentic to ourselves' mean?
5. What gives you meaning? What makes you happy? What brings you fulfillment? What story do you want to live, over and over and over again?
Are these valid questions or is there something naive about them?
6. What do you understand by the phrase 'what is necessary in things'?
7. I want to learn more and more to see as beautiful what is necessary in things; then I shall be one of those who make things beautiful. Amor fati [love of fate]: let that be my love henceforth! I do not want to wage war against what is ugly. I do not want to accuse; I do not even want to accuse those who accuse. Looking away shall be my only negation. And all in all and on the whole: someday I wish to be only a Yes-sayer.
What do you understand to be the meaning of each of the two quotes below?
What's the relationship between them?
..... then I shall be one of those who make things beautiful.
..... Looking away will be my only negation.
8. What do you think of the idea of 'affirming awful events' as part of living with the knowledge of eternal recurrence?
9. Overall, what's the value of living while believing in the eternal recurrence?
Note: My questions do not cover the last two sections of the link and these will not be part of our discussion.
B. Amor Fati
Amor fati (love of fate) entails embracing all that befalls you, good and bad.
what Nietzsche and the Stoics mean by amor fati.)
10. What's the core belief in the Stoic philosophy with regard to amor fati?
11. Do you agree that amor fati helps us cope with painful events?
12. In what way is Nietzsche's approach to amor fati different from the Stoic approach? Why is this difference significant?
13. Does the stoic approach to nature and living according to it exclude anything which you would consider significant?
14. What do you think of Nietzsche's claim that suffering is inevitable and necessary and that greatness cannot be achieved without it?
Does it lead to great wisdom, as he believes?
15. Why is it important to consider the Stoic approach to amor fati as well as Nietzsche's before passing judgement on the concept of eternal recurrence?
