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Re: [humanism-174] Rejection of scientific evidence because of dogma

From: Tim C.
Sent on: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 4:03 PM
lol, Ken Ham is an amazing critter--proof that ID is an incorrect idea!   Ham--and his ilk at AIG--have stated that when and where scientific evidence contradicts the bible, the scientific evidence is wrong.  Wrong!  Not debatable or testable, but simply wrong.  In his own words: "The world was created in six literal twenty-four days because the bible says so." 
True, that Ham does not represent any sort of majority view by religious people, but he certainly has no interest in weaving evidence, rather in denying the evidence.
btw, his organization, which purports to be a scientific research organization but is in fact a fundaloon ministry, requires all of its employees--i.e. "creation scientists"--to sign a "Statement of Faith" in which they declare their belief in the literal "truth" of the bible and the 100% accuracy of the Genesis account of Creation, the Fall, and of course, the Flood.
Tim Campbell
In a message dated 12/4/2012 3:16:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [address removed] writes:

""The problem is that many believers often find a way to dismiss the evidence from those
experiments that conflict with their religious belief. Hence religion is founded on dogma." -- Randy Pelton 

"Randy, you're wrong.  They won't dismiss the evidence, they will weave it into their belief structure.  Just as you did
in defining dogma." -- Mark Orel

Here is an example for you of one those Christians I mentioned, Ken Ham, doing precisely what you claimed Christian's don't do: rejecting evidence because their dogma tells them that their belief has to be right. Good luck finding in this comment anything that gives even a hint that Ham has woven the evidence into his belief system. This is an outright rejection of it. 

Ken Ham posted the following on his website (

"As Christians, we need to have a mental security system where an alarm goes off when aspects of this anti-God religion are presented. Here’s what should happen when you hear or read the following:
  • Millions of years” should set off a mental buzzer that says, “warning—this is an attack on biblical authority—this is a buzz word to say there was no global Flood.”
  • Evolution” should set off a mental buzzer that says, “warning—this is an attack on biblical authority—this is a buzz word to say creation by God was wrong.”
  • Feathered dinosaurs” should set off another mental buzzer that says, “warning—an attack on biblical authority—this is a buzz word to say creation by God was wrong.”
According to the true history book of the universe—the Bible—birds were made on Day 5, and dinosaurs (which are land animals) were made on Day 6. So birds existed before dinosaurs. But evolutionists claim dinosaurs existedbefore birds!

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