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Re: [humanism-174] "The Bible" on History Channel

From: Chris K
Sent on: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 10:31 AM
Sorry, I used primary sources.   

Yes, David Irving has written well researched material. He's also written garbage and been proven a fool on many occasions. 

Here's your fallacy. 

On Mar 5, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Chris K <[address removed]> wrote:

David Irving?  Who's brainwashed?

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On Mar 5, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Heathen Gliebe <[address removed]> wrote:

Yeah, I will definitely get my information from biased German-hating Jews on the Holocaust, LMFAO. 

David Irving is the PREMIERE British Historian and author of the history of WWII, who went directly to the sources for his many, many books. They terrorize him, and put him in prison in Austria, but he's out now. Don't give me a bunch of propaganda and expect me to believe it. You have to look at the source of who WROTE the stuff, not just believe everything your brainwashed college professors told you. I didn't, and I STILL got all A's on every one of my papers while in the state-run schools. 

Do you think it's "OK" or KOSHER, :) for historians, authors, lawyers, professors to go to jail for simply writing alternative views on the Holocaust that doesn't match up with the current "official" story? Hmmm, do you? If that is not a red flag that something is wrong, I don't know what else is. That is the snake in your face right there. 

xoxox, HH

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Chris K <[address removed]> wrote:

You seem to be a bit obsessed with Hitler and the Jews. I suggest Michael Shermer's book Denying History. It's a fascinating look at the psychology of Holocaust denial.

In fact I noticed many of the words You use are straight out of of the book.  Do you have a "Remember Dresden" T-shirt?

I wrote my thesis on Polish resistance to Nazi occupation in World War II with my primary focus being uprisings in the Warsaw ghetto.  

You know, the Warsaw ghetto?  The place where the remaining Jews were sent to live in filth and rubble, to be starved and infected out of existence?  You know, because they could no longer own businesses, belong to cultural societies, own property or have bank accounts, ply their trade as artists, musicians, doctors, lawyers, bankers or any of dozens and dozens of other professions?


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On Mar 5, 2013, at 4:19 AM, Heathen Gliebe <[address removed]> wrote:

I can see very little debating skills in certain people in this group. I need someone to debate with me who is not only open-minded, but also qualified and well-versed in the subject topics. So far, I am not getting any information or facts thrown back at me, all I am getting is name-calling and personal attacks, which you should know means, I WIN the debate automatically by default and you don't know your subject matter. 

Now stay focused here.. I am not on the "defense" here; your beloved monotheists religions and their followers are. Don't attack the messenger. 

And, I am done with the women-hating, I know it's soooo difficult for those guys who have fragile egos to hear information coming from a female, but you'll just have to put your big boy pants on and deal with it. It's women like me, and Acharya S, and others who have the "BALLS" LMAO, to put up entire websites non-anonymously exposing the fraud that is religion, particularly monotheism, (as polytheism allows you to have the freedom to chose whatever god you want to worship, rather than just the one, sick, demented jealous god(s) of monotheism.) 

Anyway.... Happy Jesus Turned Into a  ZOMBIE day aka Easter, whoops, I meant, Happy Titus Day! Praise TITUS!!!!! Titus saves! 

After you go do your own research you guys can apologize to me later.

And for the record, I AM ANTI-CHRISTIAN, ANTI-JEW, and ANTI-MUSLIM and before you go on... "oh, it's not Kosher or Politically Correct to be "anti or have isms" on anything, I will leave you with this, I am also ANTI-WAR, ANTI-CHILD ABUSE, etc., etc... I am NOT anti-Semitic. GO LOOK UP SEMITIC. There's a difference between Anti-Jew and Anti-Semitic. And yes, in America you just get fired from your jobs if you dispute the Holocaust, but in Europe, it's against the law and you will go to jail. Many academics are sitting in prison right now for merely their research on the subject. 

For now, none of you can answer why it's ok for every other world leader to kill their enemies during war time, but Hitler was not allowed to kill his enemies? 

I guess he was supposed to take them shopping at Macy's and that giving them their own currency and brothels, swimming pools, sports teams, and plays wasn't good enough in the labor camps. Whoops, I mean, CONCENTRATION CAMPS.... which we all live in now, called CAMP USURY. 

Funny how I can go buy "I love Satan" t-shirts all day long, but try finding or even wearing an "I love Hitler" shirt and watch the powers-that-be have an absolute melt-down and make the 6 o'clock news. Has Hitler really surpassed Satan, himself as the most evil character of all time? WOW. That is big big BIG!!! LMFAO!!!! 

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xoxo, HH

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Tim Campbell <[address removed]> wrote:
I have no idea who you are, "heathen", but I suspect that you are in fact an anti-semitic conspiracy theorist loon. I do not know how to even begin responding to your comments, except to say that your opinions do not reflect historical reality. Hitler was the only leader in history not allowed to kill his enemies? Really? And holocaust deniers are being imprisoned for espousing "alternate" views? And the jews are apparently controlling the writing of history? You are so wrong on all points that there just is no common ground here.

-----Original Message-----
From: [address removed]
To: humanism-174
Sent: Mon, Mar 4,[masked]:01 pm
Subject: Re: [humanism-174] "The Bible" on History Channel

No one in this country has ever gone to prison for writing "alternative information" on the holocaust.  Ever. 
And "alternative information" isn't beyond scrutiny.  I was intrigued many years ago by the holocaust revisionists so I looked into their claims.  Smoke and mirrors.

Killing millions of men, women and children non-combatants systematically based on their IQ, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc. should never be tolerated.  Period.  Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler and Stalin come to mind.

I have no love for any religion.  That includes monotheism, pantheism, animism and any of the other various isms. 


On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Heathen Gliebe <[address removed]> wrote:
My only question concerning the "Holocaust" is the most simple, logical, common sense question that goes over everyone's heads..... why is that Hitler is the only world leader in history that was not allowed to kill his enemies during war? 

LOL. People are so dumb. And yeah, there's red flags when you hear about professors, historians, lawyers, authors going to prison for writing alternative information on the Holocaust. I have a BIG problem with that, and so should everyone else who is for Freedom of Speech. It's the same thing all over again... the EARTH IS ROUND argument, and if you dispute it, you get put to death or in prison. 

Love how you dare criticize Judaism than you are automatically stereotyped and judged and labeled as an Anti-Semite. They have their bases covered, don't they? LMAO! Can't criticize Obama either, you get accused of being a racist. And FYI, I guess I am going to have to put a disclaimer in every email I send out criticizing Judaism saying.. "but I LOVE RAY KURZWEIL the most genius and awesome (non-religious) JEW EVER"

Here's a Heathen Holiday IQ question for you. Who WON WWII? Hint... the winners always write the history books... control the media... control YOU. 

Heathen Holiday 

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Tim Campbell <[address removed]> wrote:
"problem with the Jews is that they are everywhere"?  Really?  They make up appr 6 million here in U.S.  They are very active and successful in medicine, entertainment, and science.  This is in spite of the efforts of Christians and other such loons to eradicate them.  Pogroms and persecutions that culminated in the Holocaust.  Though I suspect that you would be in that group that denies the Holocaust, or denies that the Holocaust was really as bad as those pesky Jews would have us believe?
In a message dated 3/4/2013 8:23:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [address removed] writes:
LOL, I would hardly call Acharya S a conspiracy theorist. She's an archaeologist and a biblical scholar (as well as author of several books) and is interviewed in these documentaries... "Credits and references" up the YAZOO. Like they say in the commentary DVD about the actual movie; "...the problem with the Jews is that they are everywhere." I think there's a lot more than just 1% of them. 

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Sam Salerno <[address removed]> wrote:
 I will not follow this crazy conspiracist stuff. However It is a fact that even though the Jews represent 1% of the American population, they are overly represented in our government. Whereas, non-believers represent almost 20%. And we are not being represented at all.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Heathen Gliebe <[address removed]> wrote:
I have been in the "religious debating circles" for over 20+ years and being TOLERANT of those that don't tolerate YOU is exactly why these sick, monotheist religions that started out as cults like every other religion have so many followers. ZERO TOLERANCE.

 If I am stuck at a dinner where everyone is Christian and they started asking me about it, or trying to get me to go to church.. I no longer sit there and be "silent"... let's just put it that way. This is the computer age, if they can get on the computer to search out which cars are the best to buy, they can get on the computer to search which God they are going to worship. And then, maybe in that process, they will run into the TRUTH, like the fact that Jesus never existed. 

MUST SEE DOCUMENTARY = Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus  PROBABLY one of the reasons why the Pope quit early... 

Is anyone here going to be celebrating "Jesus turned into a Zombie day" aka Easter?? 

PS. Feminism is a tragedy. We girls had the guys trained to open doors for us, now watch what happens. We have to do it ourselves now.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Greg Priddy <[address removed]> wrote:

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