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Re: [humanism-174] "The Bible" on History Channel

From: Russell S.
Sent on: Monday, March 11, 2013 12:29 AM
Tim and Greg -   I suppose you’ll be willing to agree I have some justification for speaking on behalf of conspiracy theorists.   Obviously you have very limited understanding of them (or us). Especially since these days of the internet,  particularly youtube,  all this inside knowledge you mentioned is not secret.   Of course there is plenty of exagerated or purely fabricated balderdash that gets emailed around too much.    There are always low-information/ low-ethics individuals in every segment of society what can we ever do about things like THAT problem.    Most “conspiracists” fully understand that our ability to protect ourselves from the conspiracies is very limited, and that our best protection will only come from wider acceptance and understanding of those conspiracies (whichever ones are actually true).    Which brings me to the fact that the sincere conspiracy theorists  are only in search of the truth and finding ways to inspire more people also search for it,  instead of  simply accepting everything the mainstream media tells us, without question.    It’s not intrigue that’s swirling above our (or your) heads that concerns us,   it’s the truth swirling up there, which is so unknown and so rejected by most Americans  that we obsess about.     It’s people like you who are so enslaved to your prejudices and paradigms about what to believe/ disbelieve that worries  me.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Let’s dive directly into one of the hottest conspiracy theories -  the one about what caused the WTC buildings to fall.     Do you believe everything Bush and Cheney and their 9-11 so called investigators said we should believe?    What about Richard Gage and the 1,500 other credentialed  experts who agree with him that the three WTC buildings weren’t destroyed by just two airliners -   do you think every one of them is lying to us?  do they all have some shady subversive agenda causing them to wager their reputations on this craziness?    Here’s a link to their website in case you’d like  to  explain how all the things they say are lies or hallucinations or otherwize untrue:   And then  if you have enough curiosity to look,  you might get some good insights from   someone who made a 6 minute youtube  particularly about you who seem to get psychological benefits from  ridiculing people who have differing beliefs from the ones you have.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Rus                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
"Cherish your doubts for doubt is the attendant of truth; it is the
> servant of discovery. Truth, if it be truth, arises from each testing
> stronger" -- Robert T. Weston

Sent: Saturday, March 09,[masked]:00 PM
Subject: Re: [humanism-174] "The Bible" on History Channel
In a message dated 3/9/[masked]:35:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [address removed] writes:
I think the conspiracists do derive some psychological
benefit from their beliefs. They are comforted by their
belief that they have secret inside knowledge that the
powers that be don't want anyone to know about.

And of course because they have this secret knowledge,
they can take steps to avoid being victims of the
conspiracy, unlike the rest of us who are pitifully
unaware of all the intrigue swirling above our heads.

After all, Snopes is just a cover created by the
Illuminati to keep us calm and make us think that these
conspiracies aren't real. ;-)


On Wed, 6 Mar[masked]:26:55 -0500
  Mark Tiborsky <[address removed]> wrote:
> I don't really want to talk about that person, because
>she's no longer a
> member here. But the ideas themselves- I just don't get
>it. What would lead
> a person to have such irrational beliefs and fears and
>prejudice- is it
> fear itself or just plain paranoia?
> Someone being overly fervent about religion, I can
>almost understand since
> religion serves as a big sac of folderol that can make
>one feel safer from
> scary things like death, the universe and of course
>intimidating mythical
> entities like that God fella. But at least there's SOME
> benefit, unlike with the paranoid conspiracy stuff.

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