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London Vegan Meetup Message Board › Why has there been a venue change for the Vegan Drinks?

Why has there been a venue change for the Vegan Drinks?

王淨江 (Wong Tsing-Ko...
user 21349611
Hong Kong, HK
Post #: 3
I went to the last Vegan Drinks at the Big Chill House on Thursday (18th of April), and given the friendly people at the event, I think it could have been much better.

I don’t know why we’ve changed venues from Tibits to the Big Chill House, and I’m not terribly satisfied with the change for a number of reasons. First, Tibits may not be the most vegan-friendly place, but at least it’s vegetarian, and I would be more willing to support a vegetarian venue than an omni venue like the Big Chill House. Downstairs from where we were, they were serving beef burgers and bacon. Secondly, one of the reasons I go to these events is for dinner, and they don’t serve proper vegan dinner at the Big Chill House. Tibits hasn’t always been great for vegan fare, but most of the time, it hasn’t been bad. Of course, Shambhu’s was there to provide us with some food, but they sold snack food that did not really constitute proper dinner, and they sold it with disposable plates and utensils. Thirdly, it was just more crowded at the Big Chill House because there was less space, and there was more need to shout to make ourselves heard, which brings me to the next reason. Fourthly, it was just too loud! Perhaps it was around 9:30pm, they turned up the music and it was just so unpleasant! I was talking to a couple of friendly people, but I just stopped enjoying being there, and so I left. If you ask me, we’d be doing ourselves a favour by going back to Tibits.

Could somebody please tell me why the venue has changed? And could we get a discussion going about whether we want to go back to Tibits?
Sun
Sun-Flower
London, GB
Post #: 10
I went to the drinks for the first time on Thursday (18/04/2013) and thought that the venue looked ok and it had a very large terrace (although it was a bit chilly that night). But I agree that the room was too small and it got crowded because of it. And I also agree that the music became too loud from around 21.30ish (those I was talking to at that time also thought this) and found it difficult to compete with the noise so I left soon after. I thought that the music was to be turned up from 23.00 as was mentioned in a comment on the event page before the event.

I never attended this event when it was at Tibits so cannot compare the actually event but I have been to Tibits quite a few times and Tibits is larger and a nice looking venue. I thought that the food from Shambhu's was really good apart from the vegan cheesecake I had (controversial!). The vegan food at Tibits is somewhat average so could be better and it's a wee bit expensive as are the drinks.

I think it's good to try out different venues and vegan caterers. But I reckon that most vegans probably prefer the music to be quietly in the background so they can socialise. Turning it up from 23.00 is fine for those who want to boogie etc, but not before!

I understand why people just want to go to veggie/vegan venues, so for those that do really prefer Tibits, why not just set up another vegan social event at Tibits as anyone can put an event up on this meetup group. If you don't want to do that then the vegetarian meetup group also usually have a once a month social at Tibits (last event here - http://www.meetup.com...­ ) - why not put a 'copy' of that event on the vegan meetup group too and have a combined event there. It would be interesting to see which events people prefer!
Lesley D.
Lesleyvegandove
Hampton, GB
Post #: 188
The London Vegetarian Meetup group still meets for drinks and food at Tibits, not always monthly, the dates are more sporadic than on the vegan group but their events are on Fridays which I imagine is more convenient than Thursdays in general, so we do have that choice, if ppl do not mind it being on the veggie group and not the vegan group.
Sun
Sun-Flower
London, GB
Post #: 11
The London Vegetarian Meetup group still meets for drinks and food at Tibits, not always monthly, the dates are more sporadic than on the vegan group but their events are on Fridays which I imagine is more convenient than Thursdays in general, so we do have that choice, if ppl do not mind it being on the veggie group and not the vegan group.

Why not place a copy of these events at Tibits on the vegan group too? Tibits is a veggie/vegan venue, and having so many vegans there might rub off on the veggies (or put them off!).
Robb
robbmasters
Group Organizer
London, GB
Post #: 63
If we allow non-vegans to join the vegan group, and we promote non-vegan events, then there's really nothing to make this a vegan group! It would just be a veggie group. And there's one of them already...

But we actually do let non-vegans join (again in the hope that veganism will "rub off"). However, we only promote vegan events. That lends some credibility to the name of the group. And also provides a safe space where vegans can avoid being confronted by the consumption of animal products.

Nevertheless, many of the vegan members of this group are also members of the vegetarian group, and do attend events such as their drinks night.
MJ
user 2609856
London, GB
Post #: 76
Oh we are not fussy over at the vegi group, we take anyone from rawfooders to full blown omnivores who just fancy a a night off the dead flesh. Likewise, we hope our ways will "rub off" on them. We are all shades of grey on a continuum after all. All vegans particularly welcome ;-) Come on down .

For my two 'peneth worth. I think Rob is absolutely right in what he says above. The "safe space" comment in particular is spot on and one I definitely recognise. I like to think we have many more similarities and shared values than differences . I would not (and indeed on many occasions have had to intercede in people trying to work round the system) promote something with a meaty motif (however ethical it claims to be) and would not expect Robb to be keen on essentially doing the same thing.

I enjoy attending the vegan events and try my damnedest to abide by the spirit and the letter of them, but should I forget and put cream on my desert by mistake I would expect it to at least be mentioned....

But moving on. I like the new venue (I can drive to this one :-) ) and the outside area will be excellent if summer ever arrives. I am old and crotchety however and have to add my voice to the "bit loud" camp.

Having said that, I'll be there next time :-) Malc x
A former member
Post #: 18
London Vegan Drinks is just that... a drinks event. For anyone looking to go for a quiet vegan meal, there are countless meetups taking place all over the city each month. There really is something for everyone, but not every event suits every vegan.

If someone has a specific preference for a style of meetup (ie seated, soft music, a meal, etc) there is absolutely nothing stopping them from starting a regular event. All it takes is a lot of dedication, commitment and belief in what you are doing. That's how I started London Vegan Drinks.

For me, London Vegan Drinks fills a gap in the vegan meetup calendar. I really wanted something that was lively, social and a bit chaotic. But of course that isn't for everyone. This creates a great opportunity for people to tailor events to their own liking.

If London Vegan Drinks isn't your cup of tea, start something that is!
王淨江 (Wong Tsing-Ko...
user 21349611
Hong Kong, HK
Post #: 4
Hi Sean, it’s fair enough if you’d like to have an event that’s a bit chaotic, but it’s just that I was rather disappointed after having gotten used to having the event at Tibits. At Tibits, some people go for the drinks, some people go for dinner, and some go for both, and in my opinion, it was good that people had the choice. At the new venue, I feel that the choice has been taken away.

Yes, luckily there are many other vegan/vegetarian events going on. I’m a member of both groups, so there are other events I could attend. If the Vegan Drinks are going to stay at the Big Chill House and if the music is going to be that loud, I will most likely *sigh* just vote with my two feet. It’s too bad, because I enjoyed the old Vegan Drinks…

Maybe I’ll still see some of you at the Vegetarian Drinks in the future.
Richard Ⓥ M.
RichardⓋMolyneux
London, GB
Post #: 521
Robb, you forgot to mention your VegEvents Calendar; which is a good way of seeing most of the events in (Greater) London in one place, without having to join all the groups (only doing so if you want to RSVP).
Richard Ⓥ M.
RichardⓋMolyneux
London, GB
Post #: 522
I just wish Meetup would implement (the much requested) group collaboration, so cross-posted events can share RSVPs (the current proliferation of similar Meetup groups doesn't help either).
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