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Open Cleveland Message Board › First meeting follow-up

First meeting follow-up

Jeff S.
Boulder, CO
Post #: 39
Hey folks,

Thanks much to everyone who came on Tuesday. I really enjoyed meeting and talking with you all and am excited for what's next!

For those that couldn't make it, we got to know a bit about what each of us is interested in, chatted about the state of Open Data locally, about what's going on elsewhere in the country, and about what purposes this group can serve, roles it could play, and things we can do.

First, logistics discussed:

We're planning on having one main, monthly meeting that will generally be show-and-tell format. Talk about a project you're working on or interested in, and invite feedback and participation.

Tuesday or Wednesday nights were generally good for those in attendance, so we'll start with that a guideline for scheduling.

Kevin Day has generously offered his employer's meeting space as a venue for these meetings, for at least the near future: at Digital Playspace, 1836 W 25th St #3B, Cleveland, Ohio 44113. We'll want a projector for these meetings, which Angel Balcarcel offered to bring.

Angel has also offered to share on a project of his at next month's meeting. We'll get that on the calendar shortly. We didn't discuss this, but my feeling is that 2-3 topics per meeting makes for enough time to share, and helps maintain a good pace since we're only meeting monthly. If someone else would like to share next month too, please speak up.

Besides the main monthly meeting, we encourage setting up your own meetups to discuss topics you're interested in, work on projects collaboratively, have a hack-a-thon, etc. Currently, any member can create a Meetup on our group's site and announce it to the group. If you set something up, please just ensure the venue you choose is available, and that you show up on time. :]

I hope those who attended can respond and share some of their notes and thoughts from the meeting, and links to projects/etc they mentioned. (I'll do so, following, too.)

Looking forward!

Jeff S.
Boulder, CO
Post #: 40
Here are some of my notes from the meeting & follow-up references...

On basic Open Data ideals, I recommend checking out the Sunlight Foundation's Ten Principles for Opening Up Government Information.

I shared a bit about what went on at July's TAP Summit, (on transparency & open gov't in Cuyahoga County,) particularly our breakout sessions on Open Data and Mobile and Web Apps. An Open Data group emerged from the Summit which I foresee as working more on the advocacy and policy side of things (rather than this group's more technical focus.) I hope our goals dovetail and encourage anyone interested to join the mailing list and get involved!

We talked about Open Data catalogs, like:
* http://opendataphilly...­
* http://data.baltimore...­
* http://data.cityofchi...­
* http://data.octo.dc.g...­
...and about what a local catalog would look like. An index of locally available datasets, municipal and otherwise. OpenDataPhilly's site framework is built with Django (python) and open sourced:­

We also discussed a few of the Sunlight Foundation's projects like Open States, OpenCongress, and Influence Explorer. What would a local version of Open States look like?

We talked some about data formats, tools/stack, and platforms. Check out the Open States project's Best Practices doc for some talk on Data Formats.

A few other topics that came up:
* What data do we want most?
* What apps would we most like to build?
* How will we identify what's available currently?
* If we scrape and restructure data ourselves, where would we host it?

I'm leaving out some other topics that came up. Please help fill in the blanks!

will s.
Cleveland, OH
Post #: 1

Those in attendance were most interested in open data on more local levels [the county and municipalities].

Angel spoke about his idea of creating a visualization [A Representation Tree, he called it] to show every elected position (and the current officeholder) that you can for vote for, based on your address; and he'll be presenting about that at the next meeting.

One asked:
how the data is being accessed to be machine-readable (in a standardized format, that is able to be relatively easily manipulated for further experimentation, analysis)

Some of us shared our experiences that data is the either:

- in concert w/ the govt, (i.e. opendataphilly, chicago's crime map) The govt publishes the data; a third party, may rehost it or make a few tweaks to the data to make it machine readable.

- directly from the govt (http://data.baltimore...­

- scraped from the govt by a 3rd party, the data published from the govt. is not in a machine readable format; the data sought is likely in a proprietary format; extensive programming needed to be done to make the data machine-readable.
(example: Jeff's sherrif sales map)

Quick list of data already available:
(as I'm assembling this list, I realized some sort of db schema may be really useful, with filters based on, what level of government is this data from [i.e. city, county], what geographical area is the data from ? [city of cleveland, geauga county], what is this data about (v. briefly) - budget, crime, demographics) ? Opendataphilly is a good example of this).

here are data sets:

NEO CANDO -­ demographics, housing, population, foreclosure (registration required for some data)
Cuyahoga GIS dept. - http://gis.cuyahogaco...­ - GIS, address points,

other interesting sources of information to know:
http://caselaw.lp.fin...­ - city of cleveland code (law)
BOE - where do I vote - http://boe.cuyahogaco...­

information that isn't really open yet w/o some scraping:
City of Cleveland - https://www.crimerepo...­ - crimes
A former member
Post #: 3

I read above that a member of this group has offered to host meetings at his venue. I'd just like to offer up another meeting venue for consideration should you guys ever need it. I have a friend, Bob, who manages a restaurant and bar called Lovellee's at 4462 Denison Avenue on the west side of Cleveland. His business has a projector, he can accommodate a large group of people, and he offers his venue to user groups free of charge. Though it's a restaurant and bar, there is a wall between the bar and the meeting space that can provide some privacy/separation from other customers who are just there to eat and drink.

If you'd like more info about the place, contact me. The business has a website, which you can view here: http://lovelleespizze...­.

Take care!

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