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Dao De Jing Chapter 81
translation by Jeff Pepper and Xiao Hui Wang

(1) True words aren’t pretty,
(2) Pretty words aren’t true.

(3) One who is good doesn’t argue,
(4) One who argues isn’t good.

(5) One who knows doesn’t boast,
(6) One who boasts doesn’t know.

(7) The sage doesn’t accumulate,
(8) But by serving people, gains even more.
(9) By giving to people, has even more.

(10) The Dao of heaven transforms but doesn’t harm.
(11) The Dao of the sage acts but doesn’t strive.

Symptom-free (of potentially contagious disease) people with the capacity to listen considerately to diverse viewpoints are invited to attend after successfully RSVPing.

We begin the meeting at 7:30 pm sharp at the mezzanine above the lobby of the Graduate Hotel in the University District: 4507 Brooklyn Ave NE, Seattle, WA 98105.

Directions for first-timers at the Graduate Hotel:
From the front hotel entrance go to the right. Turn left around the corner to enter through the north valet entrance. If the valet questions you just say you're here for the philosophy group. Go straight to the main lobby and turn right behind the large bookshelves before the elevators. Enter the stairway on your left, go up one flight, and go through the first door you encounter to enter our meeting area.

AMAZON FORMAT (AZF):
We will begin the meeting by reading the subject text above silently together.

OPENING ROUNDTABLE FORMAT (ORF):

  1. The topic presenter begins the discussion by explaining why they are interested in the topic and some introductory thoughts on it.
  2. Each participant in turn going clockwise from the presenter describes their general thoughts on the topic.
  3. If one is not ready to speak they can just say “pass” and the next person speaks.
  4. After we've gone around once anyone who passed will get a second chance to comment.
  5. Once everyone has given opening remarks or passed twice, Opening Roundtable is completed and the meeting shifts into its main format.

TIMED DIRECTION FORMAT (TDRF>4):
If there are more than 4 people present we will use the format below.

  1. We will divide up the timed direction discussion time by the number of participants plus one (for a buffer). A timer will be set for this amount of time.
  2. Each participant in turn will become a Discussion Director and lead the group discussion.
  3. If one is not ready to direct they dimply say “pass” and the next person becomes the Discussion Director.
  4. Anyone who arrives after step 1 (above), may participate but will not get a turn as Discussion Director.
  5. The Discussion Director can make statements or ask questions, or interrupt or redirect the discussion at their discretion.
  6. The discussion participants can state their own opinions only when asked by the Discussion Director, not Interrupt others and accede to the Discussion Director’s interruptions or redirections.
  7. When the timer goes off the person speaking finishes their thought and then the next participant clockwise becomes the next Discussion Director.
  8. After we've gone around once anyone who passed will get a second chance to direct.

At the end of the meeting, participants will have an opportunity to vote on the topic and format for the following meeting.

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