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Join Us For Our Monthly Meeting!

Still on Zoom! Still at Your Home.
Tuesday, February 10, 2026
Sign in Starts at 7:00 pm CST
Meeting is from 7:30-9:00 pm
Northern IL Chapter Members: $5.00
Non-members: $10.00

Speaker - Carmen Turner Schott
Phoenixes & Angels - A Deep Dive into the 8th and 12th Houses in Astrology

If you are a member of our NCGR Northern IL Chapter you should receive a link before Wednesday, February 4, 2025. for your $5.00 discount to the meeting. You can use the January code prior to receiving the new code. If you have questions about any of the above, please contact Tim Tucker at ncgrtreasurer@gmail.com
If you want to send a check (to Tim Tucker at 5423 W. Agatite, Chicago, IL 60630) or pay by Zelle or Venmo, it must be received by Sunday, February 8, to give Tim enough time to process your payment and forward the Zoom link.
We prefer you using Zeffy, if possible.

Click here to secure access to our February meeting.

Here's how to pay without Zeffy:
- Zelle: payable to TreasurerNINCGR@gmail.com,
- Venmo: payable to @Uranian-Threads, or
- PayPal: payable to NCGRtreasurer@gmail.com (least preferred option, due to the fees charged).
For these non-Zeffy alternatives, an active/current NCGR membership is required to get the member rate -- and membership will be confirmed before the discount code is sent. You can confirm your NCGR membership or address any questions about the information contained in this email by contacting Tim Tucker, via
- phone at 773.205.1589 or
- email at NCGRtreasurer@gmail.com

Phoenixes & Angels - A Deep Dive into the 8th and 12th Houses in Astrology

The Eighth and Twelfth Houses are the most misunderstood, and transformative houses in the entire birth chart. Together, they form the axis of death and rebirth, loss and healing, surrender and transcendence, trauma and spiritual awakening. In Phoenixes & Angels, psychological astrologer and licensed clinical social worker Carmen Turner Schott guides students through an immersive exploration of these two powerful houses—she shares her extensive research that has been published about the patterns of both houses.
The Twelfth House is the realm of hidden gifts, karmic memory, intuition, dreams, spirituality, and the unconscious. Drawing from her research and book, The Mysteries of the Twelfth Astrological House: Fallen Angels, Carmen explores why this house is often misunderstood and deeply spiritual. It is the domain of the old soul, the empath, the healer, and the mystic—those who carry angelic awareness yet struggle with earthly boundaries. Carmen refers to these individuals as “Fallen Angels”—souls who feel deeply, sense the unseen, and possess profound intuitive and psychic sensitivity. Complementing this celestial realm is the Eighth House, the house of psychological depth, trauma, shadow work, intimacy, grief, power, shared resources, and transformation. Where the Twelfth House dissolves, the Eighth House initiates rebirth. It is the domain of the Phoenix—those who endure emotional crises, loss, betrayal, and profound change, only to rise stronger, wiser, and more empowered. Eighth House energy teaches us how to face fear, confront the shadow, and transform pain into purpose. Carmen believes the eighth house is the most resilient house in astrology.

This course blends astrology, depth psychology, trauma-informed insights, real client stories of personal transformation and healing to help students understand the unique challenges and blessings of Eighth and Twelfth House placements. Through lectures, chart demonstrations, guided reflection, and healing-centered practices, participants will learn how these houses shape intuition, emotional sensitivity, attachment patterns, sexuality, grief, spiritual gifts, resilience, and the soul’s evolutionary journey.

This course is ideal for astrologers, helping professionals, therapists, healers, empaths, trauma survivors, spiritual seekers, and anyone with strong Eighth or Twelfth House energy who seeks deeper self-understanding and transformation.

Carmen Turner Schott
Carmen Turner-Schott, MSW, LISW, is a practicing licensed clinical social worker, astrologer, author, and teacher with a national and international clientele. She has been working as an astrological counselor and with victims of trauma for over 30 years. She completed her Master of Social Work degree at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri in 1999.
Carmen has been researching the eighth and twelfth astrological houses for the past 25 years. An eighth and twelfth house person herself, she has personally experienced the energies and lessons of these two very spiritually transforming houses. She has presented astrology workshops for Kepler College of Astrology and the Association of Research & Enlightenment (A.R.E.) throughout the years and teaches a variety of spiritual development classes.
She is a published author of 11 books on astrology and healing. Her newest books are Your Astrological Energy, Astrology’s Magical Nodes of the Moon, Phoenixes & Angels: Mastering the Eighth & Twelfth Astrological Houses, Moon Signs, Houses and Healing, Sun Signs, Houses, and Healing: Build Resilience & Transform Your Life Through Astrology and The Mysteries of the Twelfth Astrological House: Fallen Angels. You can contact her at http://www.carmenturnerschott.com and follow her on Instagram at carmen_turner_schott_author and FB at
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Special Announcements:

We will continue to use Zoom in the foreseeable future.

Don’t forget to register for UAC:

Members save $75 over non-members. Single day tickets are only available to members.
(Non-members can save $5.00 by joining NCGR and registering.)

Memberships with the national NCGR organization, starting at $70/year for an individual, are available at Become a Member – NCGR (geocosmic.org).

Links for Past Meetings
If you would like a link to a past zoom meeting, we are charging $5.00 per link; you can purchase 5 links at the same time for $20.00. We only sell links to lectures that have already been recorded.
Our recorded lectures go back to April, 2020.
If you are purchasing a link, please email Tim Tucker at: ncgrtreasurer@gmail.com
with your name and what lecture(s) you are paying for.

We do welcome any size donation you would like to send to help offset the cost of our speakers and the cost of Zoom. A $5.00 donation is appreciated as much as a $50.00 donation and there is no pressure to donate.
To send money, see instructions above.
We appreciate your generosity during these trying times!
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