Fish Canyon to Piano Box Canyon

Let's hike in search of fall colors, this can be a beautiful spot for that.
It could be hot starting out (no shade) and then also get cooler as it can get windy in this area so please come prepared with layers!
It has been over a year since I last did this hike so nuances or changes in the trail might have occurred. Also hard to predict water level as there could be some rain that would increase the water but at this time it is probably pretty dry, there is usually always a trickle of water even in dry times.
I suggest due to the drive distance to try to arrive a little bit before start time. To make sure that we do not end up hiking in the dark we want to start at 2pm or as close to it as possible at my pace it should take only 3-4 hours and we will be done way before dark.
As a group though we should set a turn around time for any slower hikers, to ensure we are not lingering out there too long.

A beginner could come on their own or should start earlier in the day to allow for more time.
Distance: 8 miles
Elevation Gain: 500
Difficulty: Intermediate, no beginners as we need to stay together
Dogs: A well behaved, trained dog can join us as long as you do not expect us to wait for you, in hot weather please understand that we might not wait for you if you are tending to the needs of your dog
Restrooms: No
Water Fountain: No
Parking: Parking along road near trailhead, you will need to purchase a $5 adventure pass. Purchase at Big 5 or REI the day before or morning of. I am not 100% sure if they check for parking as they took out the pit toilet. But I usually have my yearly pass with me just in case.
Trail: Out and back, uneven footing
Sunset: 6:01pm we should be back before dark but please bring either a charged phone or headlamp/flashlight just in case as it might be dark in our parking area if we take more than our 3 hour time allotted (at my pace we should be done by 5:30pm latest.
Weather: Rainy, wind, or unusual weather will cancel the hike. The canyon can fill up with water if there is a lot of rain. Should be dry but still plan for some water crossings.

Please pay attention to the weather the day of in case there are adverse conditions and then the hike would be cancelled.

If by the morning of there are less than 2 signed up besides myself it also may cancel.

Known Dangers: Rattlesnakes, slip-'n-fall, poison oak all can happen on this hike. If it does rain while we are hiking we would need to be careful as well (probably not likely).
Bring: a personal snack and plenty of water 2-3 liters minimum, an extra layer in case it gets cool. I suggest wearing shoes that you do not mind getting wet, but that also have traction to keep you from slipping on wet ground, like a good trail runner shoe with traction. Polls are also handy to have if there is water crossings.
Flashlight/headlamp to be safe
Sunscreen and hat is recommended because we will start in full sun.

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