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As part of Rainbow Social's Sober events, we head down south. Make a $5 contribution to Rainbow Social Here: [$5 contribution ](https://www.trybooking.com/DMLGO) Meeting at Brighton Beach Foreshore Reserve, Corner of Beach Rd and South Rd at 10:30am, starting walk around 11am. **Communication:** Posted in event comments Emails from Meet Up (check Spam) Try booking emails This is on a Monday (public holiday) The walk: Brighton Beach - Sandringham Rock Wall 10:30am: Meeting at Foreshore Reserve 11am: Starting walk 11:50am: Reach Rock Wall 12pm: Lunch break 12:45pm make way back to Brighton 1:30pm: Reach Brighton Beach 2pm: Goodbye Dogs also welcomed. This will be a steady pace, if walking long distance is difficult, meet at Rockwall for lunch.

**The Secret To Building Lasting Relationships** Have you ever experienced a relatio ship that soured into bitter or unresolved co ict? Have you ever attempted to connect with Someone and seen your efforts come to nothing? What if you could resolve any upset and restore harmony? What if you could build positive relationships that last? **Relationships Determine Your Happiness And Success** For some people, creating and sustaining meaningful relationships is effortless, but for many others, it is a complex struggle that poses significant challenges. Whether your focus is on intimate relationships, friendships, or professional business relationships, there are certain fundamentals that make any relationship more meaningful and long-lasting. On this meetup you will learn some of the vital breakthroughs about the inner workings of human relations and how to confidently build lasting and rewarding relationships with anyone around you. Your happiness is connected to your ability to connect with others. Attend this meetup and positively transform your relationships with others. Please ask for Pam. If this time and date is not suited to you SMS Pam on 0405 648 822

It’s a Public Holiday! Let’s gather to do some art together 👩‍🎨 Bring any art supplies you like and a picnic blanket since we will be sat on the grass together All kinds of artists are welcome ☺️ Feel free to use the surroundings as inspiration or we also have a weekly art prompt, just ask me what the prompt is or have a look in our Discord group ✨ At the end of the event I will take a photo of our artworks to post online 📸

How to take control of your subconscious and harness its power! 🎟️ FREE ADMISSION - [Book Here](https://unlockthepowerofthesubconsciousmindmelbourne.as.me/schedule/175b7acb?ref=fb_integration) We're looking forward to you joining us for an eye-opening lecture where the speaker will break down complex ideas in a clear and practical way. You'll gain insights into: ✅ The true definition of the subconscious ✅ How it generates unwanted emotions ✅ Its real purpose and function ✅ What determines the pressure it exerts on you But this isn't just another lecture where you sit and listen passively. It's interactive and engaging - you can ask questions at any time.

theWould you like to know the true cause of DEPRESSION? Would you like to be the best version of yourself? The truth is, there is a reason why we get overwhelmed with these emotions of feeling depressed and alone and feeling as though life is too hard to cope with. In this seminar, you will learn the following: * The discovery of and complete anatomy of the Reactive Mind. * The painful experiences, or engrams, contained in the Reactive Mind command one to act irrationally against their own wishes and goals. * The complete procedure to discover and eradicate these harmful experiences so they never affect you again, revealing the one person you've always wanted to know. You.

Let's drink to **Internet Money and the quiet revolution**! Come and meet like-minded people and learn about bitcoin. This night is for newbies and regulars alike (don't worry, we don't bite!). Note that this is a very informal event, so you may need to ask the bar staff to find where the group is. There are no speakers or activities, just a casual pub session. \*NOTE: The Fox Hotel accepts Bitcoin via the lightning network, so come with sats! An easy way to get started is to download a compatible wallet, for example Wallet of Satoshi. This is the regular monthly pub session for the Melbourne Bitcoin community. We recommend new comers check out https://bitcoin.rocks/ and https://bitcoin-intro.com Find out more by visiting our telegram chat channel: https://t.me/btcmelbourne *(yes, telegram is not our favourite solution, but it's stuck so far)*

This class is designed for ladies who are perhaps new to dance or have not danced for a while and would love to experience the joy of movement again. Our dance steps are simple to follow, and are designed to get you moving, we work on your balance and core strength. Strength training is incorporated into every class. We are here to help you: ✅ Build muscle mass ✅ Strengthen your core ✅ Maintain bone density ✅ Have lots of Fun!!!! Only $12 payable at door, either cash or card.

Note: This is a notification only. Please register for the meetup on our Luma page here: **[https://luma.com/2ie8qq06](https://luma.com/2ie8qq06)** More details on the Luma page. ***PLEASE NOTE: Doors lock at 6pm so please try to get there prior. We will have someone downstairs to let others in but that will be for a short period.*** We are back folks! Back in Melbourne, with a new name and new mission but still focused on the tech. If you didn't know we are the former Aus DeFi Association but now focused on the broader digital economy umbrella so the change to the Aus Blockchain & AI Network makes sense. This event will cover both technologies with stories from builders, infrastructure providers and a whole lot of networking. Thanks to our friends at Mantel Group for this and to Andrew and Zach who are helping to lead our group down there. We'll see visits from our President, Mark Monfort and Community Lead, Lydia Ward, coming down from Sydney. More details to come as we sort out presenters but hope to see you there in early June. Here's our replay from our most recent event in April in Sydney if you missed it. **[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEIxbj4H1nw&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fluma.com%2F](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEIxbj4H1nw&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fluma.com%2F)** Stay tuned as we announce guests and updates and you'll be able to get more info as a member of Aus Blockchain & AI Network. Check out the website and sign in to see the Events page which will have more details about speakers added as we update (see [www.ausblockai.network](https://www.ausblockai.network)). Don't miss out on this opportunity to learn from the best and brightest in the blockchain & AI community while expanding your network in a fun and relaxed environment. Register now and join us for an unforgettable evening! NOTICE OF FILMING. By entering this space and by your presence here, you consent to be photographed, filmed and/or otherwise recorded. Your entry constitutes your consent to such photography, filming, and/or recording and to any use of your appearance, voice, and name for any purpose whatsoever, including for marketing, advertising, and promotional purposes by Aus Blockchain & AI Network without compensation, in any and all media throughout the universe in perpetuity.

**Why the Question Matters for Alignment, Moral Progress, and Long Term Flourishing** Practically nobody in alignment wants to say it out loud. So let’s say it: *AI might turn out to be* ***[more moral than us](https://www.scifuture.org/more-moral-than-us/)***. Now – why does that feel like a dangerous thing to claim? The question is not whether AI can match human moral reasoning. The question is whether that’s even worth bragging about. The idea of AI being more moral than humans is a real taboo in some circles. Many alignment researchers are uncomfortable with the idea because it seems to smuggle in the assumption that AI could have genuine moral agency, which conflicts with deflationary views of LLMs as “stochastic parrots” – and also because it sounds uncomfortably close to AI-worship or motivated reasoning for deferring to AI. Invoking this idea could get one dismissed as naive or as an actual safety risk oneself. *It’s also epistemically risky.* *More moral* – but in what sense? Knowing more facts relevant to ethics? Drawing better inferences from values? Applying principles wisely in context? Actually being *moved* by moral considerations, rather than just computing them? These aren’t the same thing. Conflating them produces both overclaiming and underclaiming – and most of the bad arguments on both sides of this debate do exactly that.[1](https://www.scifuture.org/why-are-we-afraid-to-ask-whether-ai-could-be-more-moral-than-humans/#6ebcc18c-d890-4a28-8b01-27945a532c66) An AI could plausibly exceed humans on moral knowledge, reasoning and even judgement without having anything like moral motivation. Collapsing these leads to both overclaiming and underclaiming. Clear distinctions between stuff like moral judgement and moral motivation makes the conversation tractable. Is it dangerous for public discourse? There’s a genuine risk that the framing gets weaponised – either by people wanting to justify AI authority over human decisions, or by critics who use it to paint alignment researchers as unhinged techno-utopians. It can also trigger motivated reasoning in both directions. A lot more could be said here. But the taboo is not protecting us from a dangerous question. It’s protecting us from the answer. The taboo itself is epistemically costly, yet if we ***refuse to ask*** whether AI could have better-grounded moral reasoning than humans, we prevent getting to the heart of the issue. ## **The questions worth asking** Before thoroughly assessing whether AI could be more moral than humans, we need to ask whether the question is even coherent. ### Alignment targeting and verification *What should AI align to?* Is morality a cohesive alignment target, or a family of overlapping intuitions that only look unified from a distance? And if there is a *fact of the matter* about moral improvement, *how would we know we were tracking it* – rather than simply laundering our current preferences with extra steps? More pressingly: what would it mean to *verify* that an agent has better moral judgement than us, given that we’re the ones doing the evaluating? This is the bootstrapping problem. We cannot step outside our own moral reasoning to assess a system that exceeds it. That isn’t a reason to stop asking – it’s a reason to ask more carefully.[2](https://www.scifuture.org/why-are-we-afraid-to-ask-whether-ai-could-be-more-moral-than-humans/#114785ab-004c-4882-b8c8-c0437942e9ec) ### The motivational gap Even if the epistemic questions could be resolved, a deeper problem remains: most human moral failure isn’t a failure of *reasoning*. It’s a failure of *motivation*. If humans are themselves imperfectly morally motivated, what does alignment to human preferences actually track? Not moral truth – at best, some weighted average of moral intuitions, distorted by power, attention, and self-interest. How much of human moral failure is motivational rather than epistemic? More than we tend to admit. We frequently know what the right thing is and fail to do it anyway – which means a system that merely reasons better about ethics hasn’t addressed the failure mode that actually matters most. And this raises the hardest question in the cluster: is moral motivation necessarily tied to phenomenal experience – to there being something it is *like* to care? Or could a system be genuinely motivated by moral considerations without felt engagement? Can motivation be grounded without being felt? ### The systemic stakes Finally, there are second-order questions that rarely get asked – about what happens to *us* if AI gets this right. Does sustained deference to AI moral judgement atrophy human moral reasoning capacity? And if so, what are the systemic risks of that atrophy – not just for individuals, but for the collective processes through which moral knowledge has historically developed? (There is recent work on comparative moral Turing Tests that begins to take this seriously[3](https://www.scifuture.org/why-are-we-afraid-to-ask-whether-ai-could-be-more-moral-than-humans/#6efcb4e9-295e-425c-8860-40f415ef4935)) Moral progress for humans has never been a purely individual achievement. It has happened through argument, conflict, revision, and hard-won consensus across generations. A system that resolves moral questions faster than humans can engage with them might not accelerate that process. It might short-circuit it entirely. I think asking these questions Socratically can help nudge the conversation into the open productively rather than letting it fester as an unexamined assumption. Also I think this line of questioning isn’t just intuition pump fodder, I think they are directly important to the project of AI alignment.[4](https://www.scifuture.org/why-are-we-afraid-to-ask-whether-ai-could-be-more-moral-than-humans/#13e5d2e0-79f6-42fc-8d1e-fcae403c2f6b) > Refusing to ask whether AI could exceed human moral reasoning doesn’t make the question safe. It just means we’ll answer it by accident, badly, and too late. Handled carelessly, this question causes damage. Left unasked, it causes more. ## Footnotes 1. The claim is easy to make sloppily. “More moral” conflates several things that need to be separated: a) Moral knowledge (knowing more facts relevant to ethics) b) Moral reasoning (drawing better inferences from values) c) Moral judgement (applying principles wisely in context) d) Moral motivation (actually being moved by moral considerations – which is one of my core focus points of activism) [↩︎](https://www.scifuture.org/why-are-we-afraid-to-ask-whether-ai-could-be-more-moral-than-humans/#6ebcc18c-d890-4a28-8b01-27945a532c66-link) 2\. This was brought up in an interview with Nick Bostrom [↩︎](https://www.scifuture.org/why-are-we-afraid-to-ask-whether-ai-could-be-more-moral-than-humans/#114785ab-004c-4882-b8c8-c0437942e9ec-link) 3\. See Eyal Aharoni’s and Danica Dillion’s work on Moral Turing Tests – presentations and interviews [here](https://www.scifuture.org/eyal-aharoni-breaking-the-moral-turing-test-studies-of-human-attribution-and-deference-to-ai-moral-judgment-and-decision-making/), [here](https://www.scifuture.org/ai-outscored-humans-in-a-blinded-moral-turing-test-should-we-be-worried-dr-eyal-aharoni-explains/) and [here](https://www.scifuture.org/danica-dillion-ais-moral-compass-better-than-expected-now-what/). [↩︎](https://www.scifuture.org/why-are-we-afraid-to-ask-whether-ai-could-be-more-moral-than-humans/#6efcb4e9-295e-425c-8860-40f415ef4935-link) 4\. The grounded values approach actually requires asking questions like: – What should AI align to?, Is morality a cohesive alignment target?, is there a fact of the matter about moral improvement, or is “more moral” just “more aligned with our current intuitions”? – What would it mean to verify that an agent has better moral judgement than us, given that we’re the ones doing the evaluating? (see work one recently on comparative moral Turing Tests) – If humans are themselves imperfectly morally motivated, what does alignment to human preferences actually track? – How much of human moral failure is motivational versus epistemic? – Is moral motivation necessarily tied to phenomenal experience, or could a system be genuinely motivated by moral considerations without anything it’s like to be it? – Can motivation be grounded without being felt? – Does sustained deference to AI moral judgement atrophy human moral reasoning capacity, and what are the systemic risks of that atrophy – both for individuals and for the collective processes through which moral knowledge has historically developed? Also see: **[Why Are We Afraid to Ask Whether AI Could Be More Moral Than Humans?](https://www.scifuture.org/why-are-we-afraid-to-ask-whether-ai-could-be-more-moral-than-humans/)**

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**ATHEIST SOCIETY** \- Melbourne\, Australia\. ***"Could AI be more moral than us?".*** **Adam Ford** (Futurologist) will present the topic and lead the discussion. **Details**: [https://www.meetup.com/science-technology-and-the-future/](https://www.meetup.com/science-technology-and-the-future/) **Venue**: Unitarian Hall, 110 Grey Street East Melbourne. (Adjacent to the Epworth Freemasons Hospital). **Zoom** Meeting ID: 852 9852 4260 - - Passcode: 249550 All are welcome. Come early to socialise before (and after) the meeting. These hybrid meetings are on the 2nd Thursday of the month, 8pm. Convenor: John Perkins - Tel: 0411 143 744 - **[jlperkins@tpg.com.au](http://jlperkins@tpg.com.au/)** Atheist Society: **[Website](https://reason101.tech/Atheist/Society.htm)**

NFT's are here to stay folks! This is a group for like minded people interested in understanding, leveraging, using, creating for, profiting from, trading too i suppose, NFT's.. everything around them, complexity, fear and exploits, best practices and more. **PLUS** This group will talk AI ART tools, techniques, artists, video, audio, prototypes and more in the AI assisted production space- ART specifically, but we can get into any aspect of some of the cooler things happening in AI in general.

Private Group. Closed to the Public Knowing ourselves and understanding our abilities is the first step toward wielding our gifts with control and accuracy. In subsequent classes we will verify and hone our talents with activities and discussion. These are hands-on workshops and participation is expected. The goal of our series will be to develop expertise in areas of particular interest such as mediumship, channeling, divination, healing and, etc.. Our ultimate directions will be determined by class members as we evolve. I look forward to sharing and discovering with you. - Cynthia

Sleep in on Sundays. When you've had your fill of pajama-time, roll out and have some tasty brunch with your fellow Humanists!

A time to make signs, pack swag bags, and have fun together in anticipation for the Pride festivities the week after.

**We are expanding our creative programming opportunities with Queer Quills, a quiet writing and sharing space. Queer Quills features some prompts, supplies and friendly faces to help get some inspiration or feedback for your writing. Hope to see you there!**

We will be marching again this summer at Pride. Come ready to show your Pride and stand-up for every human's right to love, respect, and family! * **Step-off:** 10:30AM * **Route:** TBA * **Lineup info:** TBA

http://photos2.meetupstatic.com/photos/event/2/a/9/6/600_348310902.jpeg Instructor - Crow, HPS Class fee is $30 at the door or approved exchange RSVP with Advance pay of $25 (discounted) by PayPal on the web or by contacting Enchanted Elements (614) 437-2642. Reservations made directly to Enchanted Elements will be added to the class list manually not online. Private Instruction ~ Closed to the Public ~ Initiated Members Only Please come prepared for ritual. Blessings ~ Crow