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**Open Coding Night** Ti va di allenarti con il TDD provando qualche Kata? Vuoi provare il *vibe coding*? Hai un progetto personale che non riesci mai a portare avanti? Oppure ti piacerebbe imparare Rust, Zig, Haskell o qualche altro linguaggio? [>>> per trovare l'ufficio <<<](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x-QSl6rp8vR8Zj9k58ntmzTlUtuCB7OY/view?usp=sharing) **Open Coding Night** è un formato anti-procrastinazione libero e non limitato al solo TDD: ci si trova la sera insieme ad altre persone curiose e motivate, per finalmente dare spazio alle proprie idee e sperimentare. **Come Partecipare** Porta con te un’idea, un esercizio, un progetto o una tecnologia che vuoi provare. Troverai una scrivania e un monitor a tua disposizione per metterti subito all’opera. Non hai un obiettivo preciso ma ti piace lasciarti guidare dalla serendipità? Nessun problema: puoi unirti a chi vuole condividere la propria attività e lavorare insieme. **Programma** * **19:00 – 21:30** meetup aperto * **19:30** breve giro di presentazioni: chi c’è, cosa vuole fare, a cosa vuole aggregarsi * **19:45 – 21:15**: focus time, ma siete liberi di muovervi, esplorare e fare domande in giro. * **21:15** mini-retrospective su cosa è stato fatto * Dalle **21:30** in poi, libertà totale: puoi tornare a casa o unirti a chi ha voglia di andare a cena insieme! \-\-\- We are open to English speaking participants: **Open Coding Night** Do you feel like practicing TDD by trying out some Katas? Want to try vibe coding? Do you have a personal project you never manage to move forward? Or would you like to learn Rust, Zig, Haskell, or some other language? **Open Coding Night** is an anti-procrastination format not limited only to TDD: you meet in the evening with other curious and motivated people to finally give space to your ideas and experiment. **How to participate** Bring an idea, an exercise, a project, or a technology you want to try. You’ll find a desk and a monitor at your disposal so you can get to work right away. Don’t have a specific goal but enjoy being guided by serendipity? No problem: you can join those who want to share their activity and work together. **Schedule** * **19:00 – 21:30** open meetup * **19:30** short round of introductions: who’s here, what they want to do, what they want to join * **19:45 – 21:15:** focus time, but you’re free to move around, explore, and ask questions. * **21:15** mini-retrospective on what was done * From **21:30** onward, total freedom: you can go home or join those who feel like going out for dinner together!

Hey comedy lovers! Come over to our Monday venue at Ostello Bello(via medici 4) for the best English standup & Improv show in Milan! Half Improv and half standup, don't know what will happen, but surely it's gonna be hella fun! If you want to perform but no idea how, just DM us on Ins: Yellowdicomedy It is a free entry but donation based show, leave us your donations at the end of the show so we can keep English standup comedy going in Milan. Scan our whatsapp Qr-code, we post our events every time in the group or follow us on instagram: yellowdicomedy to see all of our events!

Dalle 19:00 alle 20:00 per un’ora entrerai in uno spazio solo tuo✨ In cui fare esperienza del tuo corpo guidata da pratiche yoga inclusive per tutt* e somatiche per contattarti profondamente ai tuoi bisogni e al tuo ritmo🫀

#### Next step: schedule your first event. Scheduling an event will encourage more people to join your group. Schedule Change photo  # [Gruppo di biliardo pool/carambola amatoriale e mini-tornei](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/) [Milano, MI, Italy](https://www.meetup.com/find/it--mi--milano/) [1 members](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/members/) · Public group Share Manage groupSchedule event [About](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/?eventOrigin=your_groups) [Events](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/events/?eventOrigin=your_groups) [Members](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/members/?eventOrigin=your_groups) [Photos](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/photos/?eventOrigin=your_groups) [Discussions](https://www.meetup.com/gruppo-di-biliardo-pool-carambola-amatoriale-e-mini-tornei/discussions/?eventOrigin=your_groups) More ## What we’re about Buongiorno a tutti. Sono proprietario di un bar e dispongo di un tavolo da biliardo semi-professionale. Sto creando un gruppo WhatsApp di giocatori amatoriali di biliardo americano pool/carambola, per la maggior parte debuttanti. Cerco persone disposte a unirsi al gruppo per giocare e divertirsi nel tempo libero, il pomeriggio oppure la sera in ogni giorno. Per stimolare l'impegno di ogni giocatore, abbiamo pattuito che il vincitore di ogni "mini-torneo" organizzato nei vari giorni giochi gratis e non paghi la tariffa di tempo per il periodo di gioco (un'ora di gioco costa 10€, ma viene di volta in volta frazionata in base al periodo di gioco effettivo). Il locale si trova in zona nord di Milano, stazione Greco-Pirelli, università Bicocca. Chiunque dovesse essere davvero interessato a partecipare e unirsi al mio gruppo, non esiti a contattarmi. Cerco persone serie e disposte solamente a divertirsi, senza puntare mazzette grazie mille. Antonio

Community for all climbing enthusiasts. Whether you're an expert, a beginner, or just want to try something new, you're welcome! 🧗🏻 We meet on Tuesday/Wednesdayat 6:00 PM at Manga Climbing Alternatively, you can organize it yourself on the day you prefer. 👇 Via Privata Giovanni Livraghi 25, Milano https://maps.app.goo.gl/XjJjXMfUZ5cNRsQx6?g_st=ic Group Link https://chat.whatsapp.com/J8QIZ4TD3Yi0xBCu4qQmkb?mode=gi_t

* Get ready to laugh out loud with some top-notch English standup comedy from Divine Comedy Club! * **Grand Opening *Free*** English Standup Comedy in Porta Romana at 20:30. * Welcome to the **GRAND OPENING** of Divine Comedy Club's *English Standup Comedy*.\*\* * May the 4th be with you! Join us on Monday, 4th May, for our very first **ENGLISH STAND-UP COMEDY** at *Refeel Coffee & More.* We will feature talented comedians performing their best material. We offer a very interactive setting where no guest is free from our jokes. More importantly, there are no limits. We will see you there. **There is a 10€ minimum consumption (includes 1 cocktail). To book a table, please call the bar to make a reservation.** * 🗓 Monday, 4th May 🕕 20:30 📌 Viale Sabotino 20 (M3 Porta Romana) 📲 Book your table: call 0258324227 or reserve on Eventbrite * [Reserve Your Table Here](https://www.eventbrite.com/e/divine-comedy-club-presents-english-standup-comedy-tickets-1988130542973?aff=oddtdtcreator&keep_tld=true) For more information, visit us on Instagram @divinecomedyclubmilanoconsumption We appreciate tips at the end of the show. \* Hosted by Edy "U-The-Man"

Hey there, awesome people! 😊 We've got something exciting to share with you—our next big event! When? May 5th, 6:30 PM Where? Autogrill headquarters, Strada 5, Rozzano (MI) Join us at the Innovation Hub and the Factory Food Designers, the beating heart of gastronomic innovation for the Avolta/Autogrill Group. It's a true idea incubator, where chefs, pastry chefs, nutritionists, designers, food bloggers and technologists meet every day to anticipate trends and bring new flavors, products and concepts to life—the same ones that end up in Autogrill stores around the world. The space is organized into dedicated areas, each with its own specific function: the Food Hall, designed for meetings, events and coworking sessions the Food Academy, where staff are trained and show cooking sessions with top chefs take place Area 51, the space for free-form experimentation, which also houses a small High-Tech Restaurant with table service and a chef experience table the Concept & Food Tech Lab, where Autogrill's main formats are prototyped and tested before hitting the road Here are some interesting links about the venue and sponsors: Avolta Next Milano: https://avoltanextmilano.autogrill.it/ Factory Food Designers: https://www.autogrill.com/it/storie/factory-food-designers-la-ricerca-costante-delleccellenza Was Coffee: https://www.autogrill.it/wascoffee/ Now, here's the scoop: We're diving into a time when software isn't just following orders anymore—it's thinking, planning, and playing it smart. Enter AI agents! These are like the new superheroes—smart systems that see what's up around them, make cool decisions, and go for it to hit their goals. So, what's in it for a food & travel retail company like Autogrill? Let's find out together! In our chat, we'll break down AI agents into real-life examples straight from Autogrill's turf—from the highway pit stops to our Factory Food Designers innovation lab right here in Rozzano. And guess what? We're rolling out Google's Agent Development Kit (ADK), this open-source mastermind that helps you whip up, run, and show off multi-agent systems on Google Cloud. Oh, and we'll even throw a live demo on stage! Please note: an additional registration will be required for venue access and will be requested from registered attendees See you on the 5th! 🎉 Agenda --- Hosted By Davide Tresoldi, Organizer Matteo Rocco, Analyst Hi Complete your event RSVP here: https://gdg.community.dev/events/details/google-gdg-cloud-milano-presents-the-reasoning-layer-architecting-multi-agent-support-systems-with-google-cloud/.

Hallo liebe Java User Group Mitglieder! Diesmal haben wir Peter Kranz mit seinem interaktiven Talk zu den unterschiedlichen Java-Versionen zu Gast. Wir freuen uns euch zu sehen (virtuell oder vor Ort). * 18:00 Uhr: Einlass * 18:30 Uhr: Talk * ab 19:30: Ausklang des Abends Dank an [adesso](https://www.adesso.de/de/unternehmen/standorte/nuernberg.jsp) für Location, Bier und Pizza! \-\-\- Java entwickelt sich seit Version 9 im Halbjahresrhythmus weiter – mit Records, Pattern Matching, Virtual Threads und vielen weiteren Features. Doch wer hat schon die Zeit, 17 Releases im Detail zu verfolgen? Die Fülle an Neuerungen ist enorm, und je nach Projekt und Interesse sind ganz unterschiedliche Features relevant. Ein klassischer Vortrag kann hier nur einen starren Pfad durch die Feature-Landschaft bieten. Dieser Talk geht einen anderen Weg: als interaktiver Dungeon Crawler. Das Publikum entscheidet gemeinsam, welchen Themenkomplex es als Nächstes erkunden will – Moderne Sprach-Features, Concurrency, APIs, JVM-Tooling oder experimentelle Preview-Features. Jede Entscheidung führt tiefer in den Dungeon und schaltet neue Level frei. So entsteht bei jedem Vortrag ein einzigartiger Pfad durch die Java-Versionen 9 bis 26. Wie in einem echten Dungeon Crawler sammelt das Publikum dabei XP und wird am Ende einer Klasse zugeordnet – vom Warrior mit Fokus auf Performance bis zum Wizard der Sprach-Features. Ob Einsteiger:in oder erfahrene:r Entwickler:in: Jede Session liefert praxisnahe Einblicke in genau die Java-Features, die das Publikum am meisten interessieren. Kein Vortrag gleicht dem anderen – und der einzige Weg, alles zu sehen, ist wiederzukommen. \-\-\- Dein Vortrag bei der Java Usergroup Nürnberg! Hast du dich in letzter Zeit in deinem Projekt oder privat mit einem interessanten Thema beschäftigt? Vermutlich ist das nicht nur für dich selbst interessant! Hast du Lust, selber einmal einen Vortrag bei der Java-Usergroup Nürnberg zu halten? Wir sind nicht nur auf Java-Themen fokussiert, sondern beschäftigen uns gern mit und um alles über Software Entwicklung und IT. Wir wollen bei der JUG nicht nur bekannten Speaker\*innen eine Plattform geben und die neuesten State-of-the-Art Technologien vorstellen. Wir freuen uns auch besonders, wenn wir Themen aus unserem technologischen (Arbeits-)alltag Raum geben zu können. Melde dich gerne bei uns, wenn du dazu Lust hast, wir geben wenn gewünscht gerne auch Hilfestellung bei der Vorbereitung!

### ⚠️ IMPORTANT: Registration & Access Because this event is co-hosted with Python Milano, **you must ensure you are registered in the Python Milano event with your real Name and Surname** 👉 **Original Event Link:** [View on Python Milano](https://www.meetup.com/python-milano/events/314513434/) # Rust Milan @ Python Milano: Python or Rust? Yes! **Ciao Ferrists!** 🦀 We are officially kicking off the **Rust Language Milan** user group with a very special guest appearance! For our first gathering, we are joining forces with our friends at **Python Milano** to explore one of the most exciting trends in modern systems programming: the interoperability between Python and Rust. If you’ve been curious about how Rust can provide "superpowers" to high-level languages, this is the event for you. *** ### 🎙️ The Talk: "Python or Rust? Yes" **Speaker:** Giacomo Barone (Co-founder & Head of Product @ hiop) When is it worth integrating Rust into your Python workflow? When is it total overkill? Giacomo will dive deep into the trade-offs of this powerful duo, sharing practical insights on how to boost performance without making your team (or your product) explode in the process. ***(Note: There is also a secondary talk by Andrea Perotti on "Trashware" and hardware refurbishment—a great topic for anyone who loves low-level tech!)*** *** ### 📍 Where & When * **Host:** buildo srl * **Address:** Via Malaga 4, Milano * **Date:** Wednesday, May 6th, 2026 * **Schedule:** * **18:30:** Doors Open & Welcome * **19:00:** Talks Start * **20:30:** Networking, Q&A, and Pizza/Drinks 🍕🍻 *** ### 🦀 About Rust Milan This is a new community for anyone in Milan interested in the Rust programming language. Whether you are a seasoned `unsafe` veteran or just curious about what a `Result` is, you are welcome! **See you there!**

**How to Join?** Add your name on Meetup. [Message me on WhatsApp](https://wa.me/393500966059?text=Hi%20I%20saw%20your%20weekend%20park%20yoga%20classes%20on%20Meetup%20and%20would%20like%20to%20join) to receive payment details: **Drop-in or discounted class packs available** Your spot is confirmed once payment is completed. **Thursday Park Yoga in Sempione with Ozzy** (This class is usually held every Monday. This week, it will take place on Thursday as an exception.) **Time:** 19:15 **Duration:** 60 minutes **Language:** English **Level:** transition to intermediate (not for beginners) We focus on **balance, strength, and flexibility** with intermediate-level poses and flows. If you’re ready to take your practice to the next level, this class is for you. **Location:** Parco Sempione Exact meeting point will be shared via WhatsApp after booking **Pricing** **Drop-in:** €15 **2 classes:** €28 **4 classes:** €50 All prices are final and include VAT All packs are valid until the end of July Valid for all regular group classes (weekend & future weekday sessions) Packs can be used for classes as they are released on Meetup **Before you come** Bring your mat (or a towel), wear layers for changing weather, and consider water, sun cream, and insect spray. **Cancellation policy** – **More than 24 hours before:** Cancel directly on Meetup → no charge – **Up to 1 hour before the class:** Please message me on WhatsApp → your credit is kept – **Less than 1 hour before, no-show, or no notice:** The class is counted → no refund or credit (no exceptions) *If a class is cancelled due to weather or by the organizer, your credit will not be lost and can be used for another class.* **Safety & Notes** Please listen to your body and practice at your own pace. This class is not suitable for pregnant women. If you have any health concerns, please consult a doctor before joining. By attending, you take responsibility for your own practice. **About me** I’m Ozzy, a certified and Yoga Alliance registered yoga teacher. 👉 https://linktr.ee/ozzyoga.milano

Welcome to the Thursday English Aperitivo! The perfect place to speak in English and meet some interesting people from all over the world. Everyone is welcome to come and join in some conversation whilst enjoying a drink and a bite to eat in a friendly, easy going atmosphere. Don't worry about your level of English, the most important thing is to have fun! My name is Diana and I'm from England I'll be there to help you with your English and make you feel at home. I have been an English teacher in Milan for many years. Just come to Pacino Cafe on Thursday and ask for Diana or the English Aperitivo. I can't wait to meet you! Drink and aperitivo 11 euro

**How to Join?** Add your name on Meetup. [Message me on WhatsApp](https://wa.me/393500966059?text=Hi%20I%20saw%20your%20weekend%20park%20yoga%20classes%20on%20Meetup%20and%20would%20like%20to%20join) to receive payment details: **Drop-in or discounted class packs available** Your spot is confirmed once payment is completed. **Wednesday Park Yoga in Sempione with Ozzy** Join us for a mindful yoga session in the park **Time:** 19:15 **Duration:** 60 minutes **Language:** English **Level:** All levels Beginner-friendly **Location:** Parco Sempione Exact meeting point will be shared via WhatsApp after booking **Pricing** **Drop-in:** €15 **2 classes:** €28 **4 classes:** €50 All prices are final and include VAT All packs are valid until the end of July Valid for all regular group classes (weekend & future weekday sessions) Packs can be used for classes as they are released on Meetup **Before you come** Bring your mat (or a towel), wear layers for changing weather, and consider water, sun cream, and insect spray. **Cancellation policy** – **More than 24 hours before:** Cancel directly on Meetup → no charge – **Up to 1 hour before the class:** Please message me on WhatsApp → your credit is kept – **Less than 1 hour before, no-show, or no notice:** The class is counted → no refund or credit (no exceptions) *If a class is cancelled due to weather or by the organizer, your credit will not be lost and can be used for another class.* **Safety & Notes** Please listen to your body and practice at your own pace. This class is not suitable for pregnant women. If you have any health concerns, please consult a doctor before joining. By attending, you take responsibility for your own practice. **About me** I’m Ozzy, a certified and Yoga Alliance registered yoga teacher. 👉 https://linktr.ee/ozzyoga.milano

**How to Join?** Add your name on Meetup. [Message me on WhatsApp](https://wa.me/393500966059?text=Hi%20I%20saw%20your%20weekend%20park%20yoga%20classes%20on%20Meetup%20and%20would%20like%20to%20join) to receive payment details: **Drop-in or discounted class packs available** Your spot is confirmed once payment is completed. **Weekend Park Yoga in Sempione with Ozzy** Join us for a mindful yoga session in the park **Time:** 11:30 **Duration:** 60 minutes **Language:** English **Level:** All levels Beginner-friendly **Location:** Parco Sempione Exact meeting point will be shared via WhatsApp after booking **Pricing** **Drop-in:** €15 **2 classes:** €28 **4 classes:** €50 All prices are final and include VAT All packs are valid until the end of July Valid for all regular group classes (weekend & future weekday sessions) Packs can be used for classes as they are released on Meetup **Before you come** Bring your mat (or a towel), wear layers for changing weather, and consider water, sun cream, and insect spray. **Cancellation policy** – **More than 24 hours before:** Cancel directly on Meetup → no charge – **Up to 1 hour before the class:** Please message me on WhatsApp → your credit is kept – **Less than 1 hour before, no-show, or no notice:** The class is counted → no refund or credit (no exceptions) *If a class is cancelled due to weather or by the organizer, your credit will not be lost and can be used for another class.* **Safety & Notes** Please listen to your body and practice at your own pace. This class is not suitable for pregnant women. If you have any health concerns, please consult a doctor before joining. By attending, you take responsibility for your own practice. **About me** I’m Ozzy, a certified and Yoga Alliance registered yoga teacher. 👉 https://linktr.ee/ozzyoga.milano

**Latest Dojo Location!** **Knotty Pine Brewing** 1765 W 3rd Ave, Columbus, OH 43212 We're going to try a new dojo location for a few weeks and see how it works Dojos are informal Python group study sessions where everyone interested in Python gathers to learn about Python, help others with Python, or just hang out. Everyone is welcome from Python beginners to experts. Bringing a laptop is encouraged (we'll have extension cords and power strips). If there's something you want to learn leave a comment on this invite so we can plan ahead. We're looking for speakers for our Monthly Meetups! Fill out the form if you are interested in presenting to the Python Community. https://forms.gle/ehSfUAC2WgR34Crq9

WQC has weekly Thursday night social nights at the Westerville Java Central. Come and grab a coffee and connect with the community: low stakes, chill environment, and tasty drinks. No registration is required; come as you are.

Come out to Improving for our monthly iOS and Mac meetings. This Month's Presentation: Nothing yet. (You should volunteer). What is Cocoaheads (http://cocoaheads.org/)? CocoaHeads is a group devoted to discussion of Apple Computer's Cocoa Framework for programming on MacOS X and iOS (including the iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch). During monthly meetings, members present on their projects and offer tutorials on various programming topics. What is BuckeyeCocoa (http://buckeyecocoa.org/)? BuckeyeCocoa is a group of Objective-C/Swift developers/enthusiasts. We host monthly Cocoaheads and near-weekly NSCoder meetings in Columbus, Ohio. The meetings are free to attend. Presentations! Presenters welcome! We are always in need of people willing to present material. Any Swift and/or Objective-C related topic is welcome. Times can be 5 minutes (i.e. lightning talks) to a maximum of 2 hours. Interested? Contact info is on the BuckeyeCocoa website. To volunteer for a presentation contact us at @BuckeyeCocoa on Twitter. Follow us on Twitter! @BuckeyeCocoa (https://twitter.com/#!/Buckeyecocoa/) For more information: http://buckeyecocoa.org/

**Improving Office in Franklinton** Physical location: Improving Office 330 Rush Alley Suite #150 Columbus, OH 43215 Schedule: 6:00 p.m.: Socialize, eat, and drink. Improving will be providing pizza and beverages. 6:30 to 8:00 pm. Main meeting and presentation(s). Topic: This month John Lairson will share a notebook describing the Alpaca (Paper) Trading API and discuss different algorithms for evaluating stock trades. We meet on the last Monday of each Month. Presentations are given by members and friends of this group. If you would like to do a presentation (small or large) on a python topic, please contact Central OH Python at centralohpython@gmail.com

FREE event [https://www.ccad.edu/chroma](https://www.ccad.edu/chroma) Friday, May 15, 3–7 p.m. CCAD campus, 60 Cleveland Ave, Columbus, OH Join Columbus College of Art & Design for *2025* *Chroma: Best of CCAD*, our annual campuswide exhibition showcasing outstanding student work from across the college’s academic programs. This faculty-juried show features select work from CCAD students of all class years, and is a can’t-miss end-of-year campus celebration recognizing their tremendous achievements. It’ll be a night of fun and entertainment, with interactive games, animation and film screenings, art symposiums, poetry and prose readings, and more (along with some of the best local food trucks). *Chroma* is free and open to all. Many exhibitions including... **Game Art & Design:** **DSB, first floor, Welcome Center lobby and Room 115**

When judging morality, should we prioritize **intentions/duty** or **outcomes/results**? It introduces two influential philosophers as representatives of these approaches. * **Immanuel Kant (deontology):** An action is moral when it is done from **duty** and follows rational, universal principles (the **categorical imperative**). Certain acts—like lying—are wrong regardless of the consequences; you can’t do a wrong thing for a right reason. * **John Stuart Mill (utilitarian consequentialism):** The morality of an action is determined by its **effects**, specifically how much **happiness/well-being** it produces. Mill argues that some pleasures are “higher” than others, and that good intentions don’t redeem harmful outcomes. ## Discussion Questions 1. **The lying dilemma:** A murderer comes to your door and asks if your friend is hiding inside. Kant would say you must not lie. 2. **Can good intentions rescue a bad outcome?** 3. **The organ harvest problem:** A surgeon has five patients dying of organ failure and one healthy patient in for a checkup. Killing the one to harvest organs would save five lives, and the math works out for the utilitarian. Why does this feel so deeply wrong? Is that feeling a point in Kant's favor, or just a bias we should overcome? 4. **Do rules need exceptions?** Kant insists moral rules must be universal, with no exceptions. But most of us can imagine extreme scenarios where any rule seems like it should bend. Does the need for exceptions fatally undermine deontology, or is the strength of the system precisely that it refuses to bend? 5. **Who gets to calculate the consequences?** Utilitarianism asks us to maximize good outcomes, but we're notoriously bad at predicting consequences. If we can't reliably know the results of our actions, is it practical to base our entire moral system on outcomes? Does this uncertainty push us back toward rules and principles? 6. **Everyday morality:** Think about a real moral decision you've made recently, even a small one. Did you reason more like a Kantian (what's the right thing to do in principle?) or more like a utilitarian (what will produce the best result?)? Do most people naturally lean one way? 7. **Justice vs. the greater good:** A town can prevent a deadly plague by sacrificing one innocent person. The greater good is clearly served. But is it just? Can an action be morally right and deeply unjust at the same time? 8. **The big synthesis question:** Are these two systems actually opposed, or do they often arrive at the same answers by different paths? Is it possible that we need both: rules to guide us in the moment and consequences to evaluate systems and policies over time?