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Let’s write in Café Merlo!
Let's meet to write!
Schedule :
18:00 - 18:30: Arrival & introduction tour. Share briefly with the group your project and the "goal of the day".
18:30 - 20:00 : Let's write!
20:00 : Closing tour. Did you achieve the "goal of the day" ?
See you soon !
How many facilitators does it take to build a collaboration?
Imagine we have a thriving community of facilitators living from their passion; What do we do to get there? Tonight, we invite you to bring your skills together to create such initiatives.
You may know the old joke:
'*How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb?*'
Answer:
*'one, but only if the light bulb really wants to change.*'
... Building a collaboration works the same way.
In this in Person event, Jord, Pinja and Joost invite fellow facilitators to look beyond networking as polite conversation and explore what it really takes to do something together.
The short answer? At least two people — with trust, curiosity, and a shared willingness to experiment.
About our facilitators
* [Pinja](https://www.linkedin.com/in/pinja-p%C3%B6yt%C3%A4niemi/) is passionate about collaborative decision-making, environmental conflict mediation, and participatory action research. She has designed and facilitated system mapping exercises, share & learn sessions, and engaging educational workshops using theatre and games to spark learning and dialogue.
* [Joost Visser](https://www.linkedin.com/in/joostvisser/) is a co-founder of TIAO, a Brussels based practitioners network.
Through his management consulting company RELSC, Joost works as a consultant, coach and trainer with leaders that want to bring about positive change in their communities, networks and organisations. Focus areas are resilience, performance improvement, sustainability and innovation.
* [Jord Rolland de Rengervé](https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordrengerve/) is a Team Collaboration Coach. As an Agile Coach, Scrum Master, Team Leader, Facilitator or Program Manager, he supports IT teams in finding smoother ways of working remotely and in the office. Collaboration, Engagement and Systemic motivation are completing the Agile toolbox and Project organisation skills to foster team collaboration. Jord is a Sketch noter, Illustrator and Serious gamer.
TechTuesday at HSBXL: Hacker’s Night In
Welcome to TechTuesday at HSBXL. It’s where tech enthusiasts hang out, projects get tinkered with, and the occasional debate over the best programming language ensues.
Whether you’re an old hand at hacking or just dipping your toes:
* **Chats & Code**: Engage in hushed tech tales, showcase your latest digital masterpiece, or simply bask in the mesmerizing rhythm of coders at work.
* **Ambient Rhythms**: We curate a backdrop of everything from ambient rock to downtempo electronica. It sets the mood, enhancing the creativity without becoming a distraction.
* **Refreshment Protocol**: Club Mate to fuel your creativity, assorted beers for contemplation, and soft drinks for a refreshing pause. Choose your brew.
* **Machinery Magic**: Our space boasts more than just computers. Soldering irons hiss and 3D printers hum, telling tales of projects brought to life.
* **Knowledge Exchange**: Encountered a tech puzzle? Someone in the room might have just the insight you need. And if you’ve unraveled a digital mystery, consider sharing it.
**Note**: The beauty of HSBXL is its welcoming ethos. Member or not, if you’re curious and respectful, you’re one of us.
### Getting to HSBXL
HSBXL, the beacon for tech enthusiasts in Brussels, awaits. For your navigational needs, check [here](https://hsbxl.be/enter/). Barrier issues? Broadcast at +32 28804004. For real-time digital dialogues, tap into our [Matrix chatroom](https://matrix.to/#/#hsbxl:matrix.org).
### Bring Along
Your tech gear, a project in progress, or simply a mind open to the endless possibilities of tech.
That’s TechTuesday at HSBXL. A laid-back evening where tech happens, naturally. See you there.
Afterwork Session: Smartphone Inc (1.1 KS Edition)
Run a smartphone company by planning production, pricing, expansion, and research. Pricing decisions affect turn order and sales, forcing you to predict opponents’ moves. A tight economic game where planning ahead and reading the market is everything.
[How to Play](https://youtu.be/OKYnLjdf0gA?si=RPlvSg8DK8uMTBDS)
[BGG](https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/246684/smartphone-inc)
[Rulebook](https://www.arcanewonders.com/eu/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2024/06/smartphone-rules-eng-2019.pdf)
Everyone is welcome! No previous experience or game knowledge needed — I’ll explain all the rules before we start.
29th Belgium NLP Meetup
**Now that Claude Code is writing our software, what are you doing with all that free time?**
Here's an idea: come spend it with us at the next Belgium NLP Meetup! Our next event will take us back to **BeCentral**, Brussels' prime digital campus, where we're hosted by our friends at Campfire AI.
Go ahead and schedule that long Claude job for the evening of **May 5th**.
Doors open at 7pm for pizza, talks are planned between 7.30pm and 9pm, and after that there's more time for networking and drinks.
The first two talks of the evening are already confirmed. The final presentation will be added in the coming weeks.
**Small, specialized, agentic – One Year of Fine-tuning Local Vision LLMs.**
*Adriaan Lemmens & Ilia Breitburg (Klassif.AI)*
Local LLMs are getting better each year. The smaller the model, the more impressive. While the big labs' closed models still win as generalists, we've been working on fine-tuning our own specialist for enterprise document processing on top of an open-weights base, adapted for use in our custom agent harness and for visual layout reasoning. Recent iterations come within spitting distance of much larger models at a fraction of the size and token usage. In this talk, we share why and how we did it, as well as what it means for how we build efficient agentic systems at Klassif.ai even with hosted models.
**Why NLP is More Alive Than Ever in the Age of LLMs.**
*Tomas Staelens & Jean-Charles Nadé (Campfire AI)*
The hype surrounding Generative AI has led many to believe that traditional NLP is a thing of the past, but the reality on the ground is different. In this talk, Tomas and Charly dive into why "just prompting it" often fails in enterprise environments where cost and ROI are non-negotiable. They will showcase the synergy between NLP and LLMs and argue that the future belongs to a hybrid architecture. Finally, they will share practical patterns for using NLP as a guardrail and optimizer for AI workflows.
**Building AI‑native agentic extraction for commercial leases: the grown‑up path**
*Frederik Durant (Reavant)*
The art of agentic engineering is transforming the software development life cycle at an unprecedented pace. In this new arms race, AI engineers, software architects, and DevOps practitioners are expected to deliver 10x the impact without compromising quality or accountability. In this talk, Frederik will candidly describe his human experience so far navigating this professional identity shift. Additionally, he will show how his company Reavant built an agentic extraction system for complex tenancy documents, and what this taught him about going truly AI‑native.
Salsa, Bachata, Lindy Hop, Forró, African Dance Classes/Cours
EN (FR en bas):
We're still accepting people in our classes. Join us!
-step 1: Book here! -> [https://www.danceproject.be/reservations.html](https://www.danceproject.be/reservations.html)
-step 2: Show up!
[Schedule](https://www.danceproject.be/classes.html#schedule)
Fees :
[All info on trials, packs, subscriptions here](https://www.danceproject.be/classes.html#fees)
Locations:
-Rue Brialmont 7, Brussels
Metro/Tram: Botanique
Salsa, Bachata, Lindy Hop, Forró Intro - 1:
From base to the dancefloor!
When you come for the first time we go over the base & rhythm with you. Then you are included in the group and everybody learns the same new steps for which you just need the base.
Practice makes perfect: just relax and enjoy Salsa, Bachata, Lindy Hop and/or Forró!
Our group is very welcoming and looking forward to meet new dancers!
Salsa, Bachata, Lindy Hop, Forró Roots I - 2:
Ready to go deeper on Salsa, Bachata, Lindy Hop &/or Forró? Let's go!
[https://www.danceproject.be/classes.html#improvers](https://www.danceproject.be/classes.html#improvers)
Salsa, Forró Roots II - 3:
Looking for #SalsaChallenge? Already familiar with Forró Root? We've got your back!
[https://www.danceproject.be/classes.html#intermediates](https://www.danceproject.be/classes.html#intermediates)
More info:
-Web: [https://www.danceproject.be](https://www.danceproject.be)
-Whatsapp: +32 493 16 41 10
-Mail: brussels.salsa.project@gmail.com
-[Facebook](https://facebook.com/brussels.salsa.project)
-[Instagram](https://instagram.com/brussels.salsa.project)
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FR:
Nous acceptons encore de nouvelles personnes dans nos cours. Rejoins-nous !
-1ère pas : Fait ta réservation ! -> [https://www.danceproject.be/reservation.html](https://www.danceproject.be/reservation.html)
-2ème pas : Vient danser !
[Horaire](https://www.danceproject.be/cours.html#horaire)
Les prix :
[Toutes les infos sur les essais, packs, abonnements ici](https://www.danceproject.be/cours.html#prix)
Endroits :
-Rue Brialmont 7, Bruxelles
Metro/Tram: Botanique
Salsa, Bachata, Lindy Hop, Forró Intro - 1 :
De la base à la piste de danse !
Lorsque tu nous rejoins on voit la base et le rythme avec toi. Ensuite, tu es inclus dans le groupe et tout le monde apprend les mêmes pas pour lesquelles tu as juste besoin de la base.
C'est en forgeant qu'on devient forgeron : détend-toi et profite la Salsa, de la Bachata, du Lindy Hop et/ou du Forró !
Notre groupe est très accueillant et a hâte de rencontrer de nouveaux danseurs !
Salsa, Bachata, Lindy Hop, Forró Roots I - 2 :
Prêt à approfondir la Salsa, la Bachata, le Lindy Hop &/ou le Forró ? Allons-y!
[https://www.danceproject.be/cours.html#inities](https://www.danceproject.be/cours.html#inities)
Salsa, Forró Roots II - 3 :
Tu cherches #DefiSalsa ? Tu connais déjà Forró Roots ? Nous sommes là pour toi !
[https://www.danceproject.be/cours.html#intermediaires](https://www.danceproject.be/cours.html#intermediaires)
Plus d’info:
-Web: [https://www.danceproject.be/fr.html](https://www.danceproject.be/fr.html)
-Whatsapp: +32 493 16 41 10
-Mail: brussels.salsa.project@gmail.com
-[Facebook](https://facebook.com/brussels.salsa.project)
-[Instagram](https://instagram.com/brussels.salsa.project)
Authentic relating and circling for beginners
Welcome!
Join these beginner sessions if you are searching for deep connection, and want to learn some basic techniques (from authentic relating and circling) that can support you. Activities may include meditations (to connect to yourself, your body and the other), structured dialogues (in pairs or small groups), exercises about sharing and owning your experience, and much more.
There are no prerequisites for these sessions. Just show up as you are.
Please add yourself to our whatsapp group to ask questions or to stay informed: https://chat.whatsapp.com/ClH8EhaItZPKU5cSkjkcC7
We look forward to meeting you!
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House of Vibes
More than just a festival, HOUSE OF VIBES is a musical and artistic journey that takes place in an exceptional building : the former Demeuldre porcelain factory listed as heritage site.
During two days, local and international DJs, labels, producers, and visual artists come together to share their passion and create connections between music scenes and audiences, in a Art Nouveau hidden architectural gem in Brussels,
On the program: 14 Dj sets 100% vinyl featuring a variety of styles, a group exhibition, listening sessions, performances, and talks in an immersive atmosphere where music and art come together.
House of Vibes is a space for discovery, dancing, and connection for all those who live and breathe music.
Join the vibe! All infos [talk-cec.com](https://talk-cec.com/index.php/house-of-vibes/)
Talk C.E.C ✨141 Chaussée de Wavre, 1050 Brussels✨
Saturday, May 9 & Sunday, May 10
⏰ 2:00 p.m. - 11:00 p.m. & 2:00 p.m. - 7:00 p.m.
In collaboration with Vollenbak Brussels
Logo illustration art by Mondo di Enzo
LINEUP :
Medouz (hip-hop)
Bello Record (chill groove, chill house) invites Nikita, Gunni, Rosie from the Block (BE)
David Post (house)
Matteo Gatti (minimal, tech house)
Vollenbak (minimal, bounce) invites Poppy, Zapped Berlin
Teresa Ye (ambient meditative session)
Lucille Alison (funk)
Costa (house dance lesson)
Dusty Fingers (jazz, blues)
ART EXHIBITION :
Mondo di Enzo
Cimon
L'Altro Andrea
Hannah Onéésan
Trias
TALKS :
Medouz
Ryan Mitrovich from Vinyl Alliance
Pieter De Wagter (EQuuS Studio)
"Listening Within" - an Art Therapy Workshop
**“A creative space to connect with your body.”**
In the rush of everyday life, it can be easy to forget to slow down and listen to what is happening within.
Yet this is often where a deeper kind of wisdom can be found. The body is constantly communicating with us - if we give ourselves the space to notice and listen.
This workshop offers just that: a gentle space to reconnect and explore what your body might be asking for.
Join us for a creative journey where we will settle the nervous system through sensorial, tactile exercises that bring you into contact with your body. Laura will then guide you through an inner listening process, allowing your own sensations, images, and insights to emerge.
Everyone is welcome. You don’t need any previous artistic experience - just a bit of curiosity.
**Price: 15 euros per person**
**Please book via the following link: [https://luma.com/2evtife1](https://luma.com/2evtife1)**
*Clicking 'attending' on Meetup does not secure you a space!*
**What you can expect:**
- a kind, respectful and non-judgmental atmosphere
\- gentle\, guided explorations
\- the use of different media such as paint\, ink\, clay\, drawing or collage
**Practical information:**
- Workshop duration: 2 hours
\- Open to all from 14 \+
\- Language: English but a French translation is possible
\- Please wear comfortable\, loose clothing that allows you to move freely and that you don't mind getting paint on
\- All materials will be provided
\- Please bring something to take your work home in \(a folder\, a plastic sleeve\, etc\.\)
**About Laura:**
Laura is a second year art-therapy student. She previously trained and worked as a puppeteer for her theatre company, Théâtre de l'Heure Bleue, and continues to work as a visual artist.
She is currently developing an art therapy project using shadow puppetry with patients in palliative care, alongside a somatic-based project for people living with trauma or chronic illness. Her creative process is deeply kinaesthetic, translating felt experience into visual expression.
For more information: [www.theatredelheurebleue.com](https://www.theatredelheurebleue.com/?utm_source=luma) or find her on Instagram: theatredelheurebleue
Nayestones Sale and Gemmology class
✨Nayestones Sale ✨
🗓 Friday, May 8 & Saturday, May 9
⏰ 11:00 – 18:00
✨ A special moment in Brussels ✨ Come discover, create, and be inspired ✨
We are delighted to invite you to an exclusive event at Aroz Jewelry, in collaboration with Nayestones.
💎 Discover Nayestones
For two days only, explore the brand’s refined creations, design your own personalized jewel, or simply enjoy a moment immersed in the world of gemstones.
💫 Where you can give a second life to your gold
Bring your old jewelry and transform it into a unique, contemporary piece, redesigned and handcrafted by Natalie — keeping your story alive in a new creation.
🔍 Gemology Atelier (FREE – limited spots)
Dive into the fascinating universe of precious stones:
meanings, symbols, and history — with a personalized touch based on your birth date.
🗓 Saturday, May 9
• French session: 10:00 – 11:00
• English session: 14:00 – 15:00
📩 Registration via DM
📍 Aroz Jewelry
50, rue du Tabellion
1050 Ixelles, Brussels
[Check on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/p/DXXAK_lCIDu/?igsh=MXN0ZjRqcGM0cTJ4dQ==)
Let's Write!
Let's meet to write !
Schedule :
11:00 - 11:30 am : Presentation tour. Share briefly with the group about your project and your "goal of the day".
11:30 - 13:30 : Let's write !
13:30 : Conclusion tour. Did you achieve your goal of the day ?
See you soon !
Haiku for kids
[This is a paid event and sign-up via the website is obligatory.](https://www.wordcraft-collective.eu/courses/haiku-for-kids)
For maximum 10 participants.
Children will embark on a creative writing journey inspired by nature and the Japanese art of haiku.
Engaging oral activity: Exploring themes of nature and seasons, children will identify the elements of powerful poetry.
Writing process exploration: Step-by-step guidance to develop a meaningful poem. Feedback and encouragement tailored to each child.
Final creation: Each child will complete a poem and watercolour illustration by the end of the session. Children will enjoy themselves and gain confidence in this project based learning experience.
Each child will receive feedback on how they can continue writing.
🌿 Belgium’s Most Unusual Art Park – Spring Escape & Social Sunday
This is not a typical museum visit.
The Verbeke Foundation is one of Europe’s largest private contemporary art spaces, a vast open air sculpture park blending nature, bold installations, hidden artworks, and surprising indoor spaces.
Expect:
✨ Monumental outdoor sculptures
✨ Thought-provoking contemporary works
✨ Beautiful spring landscapes
✨ Slow exploration & real conversations
✨ A relaxed, cultured Sunday atmosphere
We’ll explore together at an easy pace, pause for reflections, and finish with an optional countryside dinner nearby.
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Sunday Vacations is more than events, it’s a structured international community connecting people through meaningful experiences.
To join this activity, join on here on Meetup AND become a member on our website.
🌐 https://www.sundayvacations.com/membership
✨ **First-time members join FREE**
You only need to register and choose your membership tier.
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### For Existing Members:
🌍 Explorer → €5 participation contribution
✈️ Voyager → Free
👑 Ambassador → Free
Membership allows us to grow chapters across cities, organise regional and international trips, and project ourselves long-term.
Limitations and the meaning of life - The Brussels Philosophy Meetup
We are living in an age of ever increasing intelligence and power. Individual humans haven’t really become any smarter or more powerful, but together we’ve developed systems that increase the control we exert over our environment. If we look at a country like China for example, the last 50 years have seen an undeniable and unprecedented increase in living standards, which correlates with [an increase in happiness and life satisfaction](https://ourworldindata.org/happiness-and-life-satisfaction).
Another way to look at this is that we’re constantly finding ways to overcome the limitations imposed on us by life/existence/the universe. Hungry? Just go to the supermarket! Had a bad fall? Here is surgery and some painkillers! Cold? Open your tap and warm water flows out like magic!
What if we follow this process to its conclusion? What does a world without struggle, problems or limitations look like? What would the absence of limitations do to our behavior, our values and our ethics? Would we still be human or does something get lost along the way? Is our current intelligence explosion missing a balancing wisdom explosion?
We’ll be approaching these topics by thinking creatively about the following concrete questions among others:
\- If we had a vaccine against lung cancer\, why shouldn’t we smoke?
\- If we could suck all of the CO2 out of the air\, why shouldn’t we continue using fossil fuels?
\- If antidepressants had no side effects\, why shouldn’t we all take them to deal with grief?
\- If we could breed animals \(human or nonhuman\) without pain receptors\, why shouldn’t we eat them?
\- If all human activity could be automated\, why shouldn’t we become “WALL\-E people”?
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Mindful Photography Walk – A Gentle Pause in Nature
Join me for a small, mindful photography walk in nature. (**NOTE Time is 9:00 AM EST(Meetup is having technical Issue))**
This is a slow, intentional gathering — not focused on fitness or perfect photography — but on simply pausing, observing, and being present.
We’ll walk at a gentle pace, with moments of quiet, and a few light prompts to help you notice details you might normally miss.
📷 You don’t need any photography experience — a phone camera is enough.
This is also not a business networking event. It’s a calm space to connect with nature and, if it feels natural, with like-minded people.
🌿 What to expect:
• A slow-paced, relaxed walk
• Moments of silence and observation
• Simple reflection prompts
📍 Location: [ Red Trabue Nature Preserve]
⏱ Duration: \~60 minutes
This is a small, initial gathering as I begin creating this space through WellGratiVibes — a blend of mindfulness, nature, and quiet connection.
If this resonates with you, you’re welcome to join.
Shut Up & Write!™ Easton Town Center
We'll meet at The Capital One Café, 167 Easton Town Center, Space A-103. This is in the main mall where the Microsoft store used to be, on your left if you're standing at the bottom of the AMC Theater escalator.
Join us on Saturday for an hour of uninterrupted wordmaking!
• What we'll do
Join us for an hour of writing! We’ve discovered that it’s strikingly helpful to write with other writers. See if it’s true for you at 10AM on Saturday mornings.
Be it a book, blog, script, essay, dissertation, resume, melody, poem or just plain work stuff, you are invited to write it with us. No one will see what you've written or give you unsolicited advice. Instead of just thinking about writing, come and get some real writing done.
SCHEDULE:
10:00 - SESSION 1: quick intros.
10:10 - timer starts: write for 1 hour.
11:10 - chat / take off / keep writing.
OPTIONAL SOCIALIZING happens at 11A-11:30ish. Writing is very solitary. Connecting (and sometimes even commiserating) with other writers is a cool thing.
BEING LATE IS OKAY: just show up and get settled, then check-in with me after the session. (I’ll be the person with the Shut Up & Write! sign.) If you were on time, please be willing to make room for the friendly latecomer.
Happy writing and I look forward to seeing you!
• What to bring
Whatever you need to be able to write!
Bring earbuds/earplugs if you want to block noise or the occasional conversation by other patrons. Electrical outlets are limited, so charge your devices before whenever possible.
See you at The Café on Saturday!
How to be a Better Communicator - A Free Seminar
Communication is everything in life!
You are only as successful as your ability to communicate.
\- What if you could confidently talk to anyone?
\- What if you had the ability to calmly control every conversation?
\- What if you could close that sale\, ask for that date\, make new friends\, repair problematic relationships\, get that raise\, or effortlessly express any idea with confidence?
You can!
The secret to success relies on your ability or inability to effectively communicate. Attend a free seminar and gain a better ability to communicate.
1266 Dublin Road, Columbus, OH 43215
Hosted by the Church of Scientology of Central Ohio
For more information, contact Rhiannon, the Event Host at 614-221-5024
NFT AI ART Columbus
NFT's are here to stay folks!
This is a group for like minded people interested in understanding, leveraging, using, creating for, profiting from, trading too i suppose, NFT's.. everything around them, complexity, fear and exploits, best practices and more.
**PLUS**
This group will talk AI ART tools, techniques, artists, video, audio, prototypes and more in the AI assisted production space- ART specifically, but we can get into any aspect of some of the cooler things happening in AI in general.
Columbus Arduino Raspberry Pi Enthusiasts (CARPE) (Check Location)
Bring your Raspberry Pi, Arduino, microcontroller, or any other electronic project and join fellow electronics makers for a night of creativity and collaboration!
This session is open forum to share your current projects—whether complete or in progress, it’s all interesting! Whether you’re deep into embedded systems, exploring new ideas, or just getting started, you’ll find a welcoming space to collaborate, share, and get inspired.
**New to electronics or curious about tinkering?**
You’re absolutely welcome. If you’re a beginner and want to experiment, I’ll have a couple of starter kits available so you can try things out—whether that’s blinking your first LED, putting something on a display, or experimenting with simple sensors. No pressure and no experience required—just an interest in learning and building.
While we continue to pursue a more permanent venue for this Meetup, we’ll be using public library facilities based on availability. This session will be at the Worthington Park Library in the Olentangy Meeting Room.
Brushes & Brunch: A Mother's Day Painting Event
🌸 Mother’s Day deserves more than flowers 🌸
Join us for an elevated outdoor paint experience designed for creativity, connection, and unforgettable memories.
✨ Brushes & Brunch: Mother’s Day Garden Edition ✨
Beautiful garden vibes
Brunch bites
Signature refreshments
Guided painting
Soft music
Luxury energy
Whether you're celebrating your mother, your daughter, your friends, or simply honoring yourself — this experience is your invitation to slow down and create something beautiful.
No painting experience needed — just bring your good energy.
This is not your typical paint party.
This is intentional.
This is elevated.
This is your moment.
🎟 Limited seating available to keep the experience intimate.
Reserve your spot early
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/brushes-brunch-a-curated-mothers-day-painting-experience-tickets-1987709930911





























