Time and Mortality
Details
Topic: Time and Mortality
Chairman:
Robert Light
Moderator:
Spencer Sinclaire
Meetup Date:
Wednesday, September 30th, 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m., with a 15 minute break at 8:00 p.m.
Meetup Location:
Upstairs at The Bent Mast, 512 Simcoe St. Victoria, BC, V8V 1L8
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Quotes:
“Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its students."- Hector Berlioz
“It is not that we have a short time to live but that we waste a lot of it.” - Seneca
Synopsis:
Time derives its urgency, shape, and meaning from mortality, turning finite limits into the framework of human existence.
Key Thinkers and Frameworks
Martin Heidegger (Being and Time): Time as unfolding: Time is not a neutral river; we are temporal beings projecting forward from a thrown past.
Being-towards-death (Sein zum Tode): Anticipating death (certain in fact, indefinite in timing) pulls us out of the anonymous "they"-self (das Man) into authenticity. Finitude defines time: Time gets its structure and real possibility from our end-point.
Epicurus & Lucretius
Symmetry argument: The infinite time after you die equals the infinite time before you were born. The privation view: Death is not an experience. As Epicurus wrote, "Death is nothing to us" because when we exist, death is not; when death is, we are not. Time management: Focus on reducing anxiety in the fleeting present.
Bernard Williams
The tedium of immortality: Unending life leads eventually to categorical boredom, as seen in the essay The Makropulos Case.
Desire structure: Human categorical desires (deep projects, commitments) need a temporal container to matter; infinite time flattens urgency.
Stoics (Marcus Aurelius, Seneca)
Memento mori: Remember you must die (memento mori). Present focus: Without heaven/hell guarantees, the present moment is the sole arena for virtue.
Equalizing perspective: Death levels all status (Emperor and mule driver share the same fate).
Modern/Contemporary (Oliver Burkeman, Transhumanist Critiques)
Four thousand weeks: Average human life span is ~4,000 weeks; accepting limitation cures the delusion of "getting everything done". Constitutive horizon: Philosophy and narrative coherence require an ending; infinite time/transhumanist digital extension threatens to dissolve the friction that gives projects meaning.
Watch: The Philosophy Book That Will Change How You See Reality Heidegger’s Being and Time on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryFcqQNRzdw
