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Please read from Dennis & Ellen from The MN Wine Club

From: DennisandEllen
Sent on: Thursday, April 5, 2012 11:50 AM


First the reason for this email:  The MN Wine Club may be leaving Meetup in the next six months or so. But The MN Wine Club is NOT shutting down or going away, just evolving.

If you like what we have to offer, we ask that you simply send us your name & an email address & which groups(s) you are in so we can contact you outside of Meetup.

There is no ONE reason for our decision at this time but we’ll give you a DOZEN.

1.     You may have heard recently that employers are asking for access to peoples Facebook pages, can Meet-up be far behind? Our take: it’s none of their damn business what you do after hours if it’s legal. Us leaving Meet-up gives you one more level of privacy in an all too nosey world.

2.    We just had our Night at Sex World, some people did not sign-up because they did not want others: a boss, relative or co-worker on Meetup to see they were going.  We want to continue to offer you edgy events with no apologies to anyone.

3.    We bring many people to Meet-up as part of promoting our groups, and we host many events every month, for that we get a bill every month from Meet-up… we think the Meet-up marketing model is wrong. We don’t think you should pay, but that said we have never seen one dime of advertising revenue from what we do from Meet-up either.

4.    If you are on Linked In you may have just got an email that said they are going to start sending out ads. Did you approve ads in your email when you signed up for Linked In, Facebook or Meet-up? I don’t know either, we don’t believe in selling your email unless you specifically approve it. Us leaving Meet-up might help keep your email free of junk.

5.    Ellen & I LIKE the groups we have created in Meet-up you are Professional yet a bit politically incorrect… we LOVE THAT! It is something we have talked about for YEARS. You are like the professional people from Rotary & Chambers but they never do anything. We don’t see Meet-up as the way for our groups to grow in the future. Meet-up seems to be catering to the over 50 singles dating crowd, not our typical demographic.

6.    Take a look at the people in our groups. Most look like they could just as well be a Rotary or Chamber of Commerce group, but that’s the type of people, people like you, we like to be around. We have been harshly criticized from other Meet-up groups, which are mostly dating groups, for our reduced drama selection process.

7.    This fall as part of our REAL business: providing websites and business services for other small businesses, we will again become very active in the area Chamber of Commerce’s and Rotary’s. We would like to invite those people to our groups to grow. Why should Meet-up benefit from our work?

8.    We have never turned down anyone from joining the groups we pay for, for something they could not correct in 30 seconds. Yet we have been ostracized and even been threatened for it and Meet-up has done nothing about it.

9.    We’d like to give you chat, bulletin boards, surveys, ect and other things on a new website that Meet-up simply does not offer. Look for that on in the future.

10.     We would like to start promoting our groups and taking some advertising and offering some discounts just targeted at our groups on our website and not expecting to share the revenue with Meet-up for the work we have done.

11.     We would like to grow our group by invitation only, either from you or us. We are not big on body piercings, tattoos, Harleys or people in dire need of a makeover… and you notice you don’t see any in the group.

12.    If Meet-up shut down tomorrow, and one never knows about internet companies, how would we contact you? And we’d HATE not being able to party with you!

We have a 13th and more but you get the idea.  We are just taking our groups to the next level to add more nice professional people like you.

Remember to email us with your name & contact email address & which groups(s) you are in and any questions, we hope to see you soon,

Dennis & Ellen
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