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RE: [entrepreneur-200] Group emails

From: Charles B.
Sent on: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 10:08 PM

Well, here’s a reply to the whole group, done intentionally.  I actually tried going to the meetup site to post this, but they’ve got a new beta web page, and I can’t find the settings any more.  When I clicked on this thread to reply, the website crashed.  So much for the online forum!   I also tried clicking on the link at the bottom of the mail to change the settings, only to find a site poorly translated into German with options that didn’t seem to apply.  


Furthermore, I’ve been through this discussion with other mailing lists to which I belong.  The bottom line has invariably been that it’s simply not a reasonable expectation that mailing list members will be able to spend the time logging into the web interface of the various on-line forums to which they belong.  If I had to do this for all the list to which I belong, I wouldn’t get anything done all day.  It’s much better to have the traffic come in mail form, so that it can be centralized in one client.


Most mail clients (including the on-line ones like Yahoo, Hotmail, etc.) have rules that, among other things, allow you to automatically shift incoming mails sent to a mailing list off in a special folder created for that purpose, so they don’t clutter up one’s main inbox.  I have such an arrangement on Outlook, which I use to read mail.  The complainers are right – the traffic has increased, so I am now considering creating a rule and folder for this meetup group’s mail.


If people who subscribe to this list don’t have the savvy to figure out how to use that feature, they’re not likely to make good entrepreneurs.   We’re not talking about rocket science here, but a skill which has become as elementary and important as using the telephone.  . 


One suggestion I would make to Meetup would be to change the format of the mails sent out to the mailing list so they actually show up in list members’ inboxes as being ‘from’ the individual who wrote them.  The mails should still appear to be ‘to’ the mailing list.  That way, a simple reply would automatically go only to the person who wrote the mail, whereas only a ‘reply to all’ would include the mailing list in the addresses to which the mail would be sent.  As it stands now, mailing list mails are ‘From’ the mailing list as well as ‘To’ it.  That simply makes no sense at all.   I don’t know why Meetup decided to make such an elementary error in their mailing list design.  Other mailing list operators have gotten considerable grief for this.  Mailing lists they’ve taken over have seen dwindling participation because the misfeature made the mailing list a pain to use.  


Perhaps is not the best place to host the mailing list.  It does offer advantages in that it offers Facebook-like features, does event polling, and keeps mail threads on-line in case someone actually wants to use the portal  But there is other good mailing list software out there, such as Mailman, which does mailing lists much better.   Mailman is free – you just need a website to host it on. 


I could perhaps make room on one of my websites – perhaps someone could contact me about that offline.  


From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Clay
Sent: Dienstag, 2. Februar 2010 21:12
To: [address removed]
Subject: [entrepreneur-200] Group emails


Hi folks,

While I am happy to see interaction happening here, a few members have told me that they find the recent volume of email excessive and/or off topic. So I would like to ask the following of you:


  • For new topics, please consider posting to the online forum, rather than using the "email list" function.
  • Remember that if you simply reply to an email, it will be typically be sent to the entire list (depending on how it was sent). If you want to respond privately to someone, make sure their address is in the "to" field. Otherwise, use the private message function.
  • If you want to be removed from the mailing list or change your notification options, please see the instructions that are included at the bottom of each email.


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