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Three keys to a radically better society?

What could the future look like? What changes are in store for society in the next 5-10 years? How will technology shape the future? In order to face the challenges that lie ahead, how do we need to change our thinking and our social structures? What should government look like in an increasingly digital age?

This meetup is organised by The London Chapter of ‘The Zeitgeist Movement’ with support from London Futurists. There will be two speakers, plus plenty of opportunity for questions and comments from the audience.

(1) Technology, Transhumanism, and TZM: Three keys to a radically better society?

David Wood, chair of London Futurists, reflects on some of the highlights from the recent Anticipating 2025 conference, and shares his own thoughts on the most important actions needed to build a society of abundance, freedom, and collaboration.

• Technology can play a fundamental part in that process, surprisingly quickly (because of its accelerating pace), but it is not sufficient. This talk will also evaluate:

Transhumanism - the idea that human nature can (and should) be significantly improved in the near future, beyond the limitations bestowed by biological evolution

The Zeitgeist Movement (TZM) - which holds that social relations can (and should) be significantly improved in the near future, beyond the limitations bestowed by the historical operation of financial markets.

David Wood is a writer, catalyst, and futurist. He spent 25 years in the mobile computing industry, as a pioneer of PDAs and smartphones, and as co-founder of Symbian, the creators of the world's first successful smartphone system. He tweets as @dw2 and writes the independent blog http://dw2blog.com/.

David is also a director of the international Humanity+ organisation, which states the following on its webpage: "Humanity+ is dedicated to developing knowledge about the science, technology, and social changes of the 21st century. We aim to deeply influence a new generation of thinkers who dare to envision humanity's next steps."

(2) The Socio-techno tool kit for a sustainable future

James Phillips of TZM will continue the theme of "What does the future hold", by analysing our current scientific capability, trends in the advancement of technology, and changing trends in cultural values.

He will be discussing these trends and their social impact as well as presenting the option of using these new advancements to better human existence locally, nationally, and globally.

James Phillips is the founder of TZME, a global educational platform for The Zeitgeist Movement and is currently giving presentations and workshops regarding the ‘Natural Law Resource Based Economic Model’ in numerous schools in and around the London area.

About the Zeitgeist Movement:

From http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/mission-statement:

Founded in 2008, The Zeitgeist Movement is a sustainability advocacy organization, which conducts community based activism and awareness actions through a network of global/regional chapters, project teams, annual events, media and charity work.

The movement's principle focus includes the recognition that the majority of the social problems that plague the human species at this time are not the sole result of some institutional corruption, absolute scarcity, a political policy, a flaw of "human nature" or other commonly held assumptions of causality. Rather, the movement recognizes that issues such as poverty, corruption, pollution, homelessness, war, starvation and the like appear to be "symptoms" born out of an outdated social structure.

While intermediate reform steps and temporal community support are of interest to the movement, the defining goal is the installation of a new socioeconomic model based upon technically responsible resource management, allocation and design through what would be considered the scientific method of reasoning problems and finding optimized solutions.

Venue

The Elixir Bar, 162 Eversholt Street, NW1 1BL, London.

This is a short walk north from Euston Station.

The meeting is free to attend. Since the meeting is being held in a bar, attendees should expect to purchase drinks as the evening proceeds.

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  • linda m.

    Will these sustainable development goals do the job?


    http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2014/aug/06/sustainable-development-goals-un

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    August 15, 2014

  • Margaret S.

    I am very interested in the fact that there will be lots of older people living longer and I am interested in fighting ageism and in making society as age friendly as possible.

    1 · August 15, 2014

  • linda m.

    How about socializing human needs to start with. This includes, food; water; shelter; medical care, heat, and education (needed to get by in our society). After that you can make work necessary to get your wants taken care of.

    4 · May 19, 2014

    • linda m.

      After all, Greed and their "I've got mine and you can't have any" attitudes are being fed by an extreme right wing view that businesses and corporations should have their way always. Also that if a business only wants to pay you pennies a day for your labor, thats alright with them. Of course thinking like that will eventually come back and bite them. They only care about the here and now.

      They don't care about anyone but themselves, and heaven forbid that you should want to help someone who has lost their job and become homeless. This is why food stamps and section 8 low income housing has been slashed. As well as unemployment Insurance. This is why they are trying to take away medicare and medicaid and slash social security payments. The wealthy individuals and corporations are too greed driven to get that eventually they will have very few customers if no one can afford what they are selling.

      1 · July 13, 2014

    • linda m.

      Here in the states, attitudes will need to change. It is happening with the young people coming up, but until the old codgers die off, it won't happen here. The young are where the efforts need to be focused. The old are too stuck in their irrational fear of socialism and socially responsible societies.

      July 13, 2014

  • David W.

    I've placed a copy of my slides at http://www.slideshare.net/DeltaWisdom/three-keys-to-a-radically-better-world. Thanks to everyone for their questions, and for several fascinating chats afterwards.

    5 · June 18, 2014

    • Andrew D.

      I'm glad though that in later conversation you brought up that counter-example Tesla opening up their tech though, to which I was surprised when their stock price didn't crash last week, but has held steady and actually increased. Who knows what goes through Elon Musk's head, but I think he's on a good track, although I don't know how we can get other businesses to follow suit (let's hope leading by example helps).

      2 · June 18, 2014

    • Mark G.

      Andrew - Great comments. I invite you to consider that not knowing about how to get other businesses operating consciously is the perfect place to be... At that moment, we have no constraints from the past and can create anything in our imaginations.

      July 2, 2014

  • Kiran M.

    The open source revolution is coming and it will conquer the 1% - ex CIA spy - http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jun/19/open-source-revolution-conquer-one-percent-cia-spy

    3 · June 29, 2014

    • Anette

      People concerned with access to personal data need to change direction of thier search from means to protect personal data , which is simply unrealistic in modetn world, into defining trust and meaduring trustworthiness if these who possess meand of power for using our personal data. There is nothing for us to hide if these whom we chose to be in power are cappable of wise and fair decision making. modern society is designed on assumptions of multual distrust. It is paranoid in its core and therefore lacking knowledge of different aspects of trust and examples of total trust when all security measures could be lifted as harmlesness is ensured.

      3 · June 30, 2014

  • james p.

    Thank you so much to all who came and for such a positive meeting and discussion. It was really great to see so many people who care about engaging in how to use technology to better human well being. Thanks so much to David for giving such a well reasoned and detailed analysis of where we are and where we are going, as well as highlighting some very important questions for TZM. Here is Peter Josephs most recent talk from ZDAY 2014 in which he walks through an interesting thought exercise pertaining to ethics, business and the free market which I mentioned at the meeting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDFtHly3uoA

    Please do sign up to our meet up page at: http://www.meetup.com/Zeitgeist-Movement-London/ to find out when our next events are.

    Hopefully David and I could host this event again in the future to get these talks recorded on camera perhaps?

    Thanks again and look forward to seeing you again soon.

    1 · June 18, 2014

  • Andrew D.

    Just joined this group to say I really enjoyed your talk David, and for (Ant, I think) who asked about the Shasta Dam that Jim briefly referred to, here's a transcript of what Ben said about it: http://thezeitgeistmovementforum.org/tzm-global-radio-show/812-shasta-dam-hydroelectric-power-how-renewable-intermittency-moot-us.html

    For whoever was proposing that we are still held back by selfish 'caveman' genes, I highly recommend checking out this undergrad course on human behaviour freely published by Stanford U, which (esp. lecture 4) clears up a lot of misconceptions about what roles genetics and environment play:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=848F2368C90DDC3D and is well accompanied by the book "Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers"

    4 · June 18, 2014

  • Ted H.

    David - I would be very keen for you to give a brief report of the major arguments raised at the meeting. Not going to be able to attend myself and very interested.
    I am a supporter of human life and liberty, and see all the negative incentives of the current market based system. Not satisfied that TZM has a fully workable alternative as yet.
    Exploring the boundaries between rights and responsibilities is really crucial. Even property rights come with responsibilities. Ownership gives me occupancy rights, but not unrestricted use rights. Where I live I can't light a fire outside during high summer for example (too dangerous for my neighbours).

    1 · May 13, 2014

    • Anette

      Any intention to establush rights and responsibilities ends up in guilt and blaim culture and punishment as the only control mechanism. It is far more productive to work on power mapping. Wild capitalism and social justice is not a natural merger. It carries conflict in its core. The control and power have to redistributed to ensure no conflic of interest is in place. E.g. politicians have to be ban from all commercial activities to represent people. Very simple rule. Not followed in the UK. Find a country were it is followed and watch it. That rule makes far greater divide than capitalism vs socialism. Any system could be corrupt by power grab. Capitalism we live it is not gping to turn into just system as it is corrupt by accomplished power grab. Guilt and punishment mentality we currently obsessed with is environment were freedom of thought and choice are impossible. Society is jumping from one paranoid campaign to another. Systemic failure.

      June 18, 2014

  • Nick C.

    Looking forward to it!

    1 · June 17, 2014

  • terence f.

    Love to have been with you but I have a long outstanding date. I shall look forward to reading the reports.

    1 · June 16, 2014

  • Graham A.

    I shan't be going because, as a supporter of a free society based on property rights, a free market and free speech, I am strongly opposed to the aims of the Zeitgeist movement.

    April 23, 2014

    • Graham A.

      @David Wood: you asked "Graham - Would you say that existing societies, with their basis in property rights and free markets, are the apex of potential ways to organise human relations?

      Do you accept the analysis of people like Michael Sandel that there are some human interactions that should *not* be governed by free market economics?"

      June 16, 2014

    • Graham A.

      I don't think this is a good place to engage in a complete defence of the free society, but in brief reply to those two questions: (i) YES: existing societies, insofar as they are in fact based on property rights and free markets (only partially, in all cases), are the apex of potential ways to organise human *trading* relations; (ii) I have never heard of Michael Sandel but it is a long-standing truism and obvious fact that not all human relations are economic; however, non-economic relations work progressively worse and worse as you get societies larger than an extended family, and for any group larger than that (about 20 people), property, free speech and the rule of law are vital. As an aside I may say that revealed preferences - judging by often risky migration and escapes from socialist countries - are always in favour of freer societies. There is little point in continuing the discussion in general terms, because the main tenets are familiar to all.

      June 16, 2014

  • Cliff B.

    It's Great to get affirmations that the direction advocated by Natural Law/Resource Based Economy advocates is the way to sustainable solutions for persistent social problems.

    1)This welcome news about Google engineers sharing some significant NLRBE values and actually talking about seeing something so massively influential as electric cars NOT as possessions, but as services!
    " Wouldn't that be a more rational way of organising urban transportation? "

    Why stop at cars.....roll on the NLRBE! Hurrah:D
    http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/01/google-self-driving-pods-end-of-road-car-ownership

    2) Breakthrough last Tuesday (Guardian) on mainstream media talking about if we don't change our economic system, our number's up.
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/27/if-we-cant-change-economic-system-our-number-is-up

    3 · June 1, 2014

  • terence f.

    Sadly I shall be running a meeting at the time. Sadly the Elixir has no real ale.

    April 23, 2014

    • terence f.

      That would be Real Ale as an Elixir. :))

      1 · April 23, 2014

    • Ant H.

      Last time I was there, however, they did have some tasty local pale ales from Camden!

      2 · April 23, 2014

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