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Introductory Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw&feature=youtu.be .

Theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvQOA0fznrA  (The Visitors).

We are residents of the Greater St. Louis Area (and other areas) concerned about the many disturbing aspects of the 9/11 attacks and interested in finding out more about those events. We share the St. Louis Fusion Center's dedication to ". . . the collection, analysis and dissemination of information used to detect, defend against, or respond to acts of terrorism." We have many disagreements, but we agree that 9/11 is worth inquiring into. We are inclusive as opposed to exclusive. Generally, we believe that when an object moves under the influence of gravity, the object goes down, not upwards and outwards in an arc, as thirty-foot steel beams did when the Towers "fell down."

James Ridgeway says:

". . . not one person in the White House—or in the cabinet, or the Pentagon, or anywhere in the Bush administration—was fired because of failure to perform on 9/11. Not one person resigned. With the exception of Richard Clarke, not one person apologized to the victims' families. Nearly twenty-eight hundred people died, and not one of the people responsible for protecting them was held accountable." (The Five Unanswered Questions about 9/11, p. 88.)

And, several were rewarded.


Regarding the murder of the Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya, who was critical of Vladimir Putin, Reporters Without Borders states:

"Novaya Gazeta editor Dmitry Muratov said there was still a 'political taboo' about the real mastermind’s identity. 'Six years have gone by – it is time to ask difficult questions,' he said."

Thirteen years have gone by since September 11, 2001. Here in the United States, we too say: "It is time to ask difficult questions."

 

ATTEMPTS TO DISCOURAGE INQUIRY

(If you have not read Ibsen's play An Enemy of the People, it is available here: http://www2.hn.psu.edu/faculty/jmanis/h-ibs...  .)

We are aware that the bulk of the mass media are owned by at most six international conglomerates, and that they are united in their efforts to portray any inquiry into the events of 9/11 as somehow harmful or hurtful to the families of the victims of that catastrophe. But it was precisely a group of widowed mothers who first raised questions, and who pressured the government into conducting any investigation whatsoever. In the words of one of them, Patty Casazza, "Likeminded, we all had questions. We all had questions, and we wanted answers."  Their struggle to obtain information from the government is documented in the video 9/11: Press for Truth, at: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=397... .

Seventy percent of their questions went unanswered by the 9/11 Commission, and are unanswered still.

Survivors have sued for the loss of their loved ones, and not one family member's case has been allowed to go to trial, where rules of evidence would permit questioning in public and under oath, and deponents can be compelled to answer. Widowed 9/11 family member Ellen Mariani  has challenged the official story in the U.S. court system for over a decade, and repeated dismissals have forced her to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court. See: http://marianilawsuit.wordpress.com/ .

We are guided by Donna Marsh O'Connor, who lost her pregnant daughter on 9/11.  Her feelings may be seen at: http://www.videorolls.com/watch/donna-marsh....

At:  http://www.videorolls.com/watch/donna-marsh...  she begs our members to use "reasonable arguments," and "just go out into the world and ask the fundamental questions of that day."

At: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CrlDr-IEAA  she begs the media to do their job.

While we do not expect media employees to disregard the requirements of their employers, we suggest that others are under no obligation to ignore obvious facts.

Law Enforcement Officers have taken an oath to defend the Constitution, and so are under an obligation NOT to ignore obvious facts. If any are reading this, we suggest you also view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16SQJz-wnQg .

Employees of the Department of Homeland Security are invited to view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlwgZzeq8oI , and the related videos on that YouTube page.

Underlying the reluctance to look at such facts is the possibility that the government of the United States may have told its citizens a lie. That more general distrust of government is frequently called "conspiracy theory"  by the mass media, and is sometimes characterized as "paranoia." Regarding this matter, one may consider the statements of government psychiatrist Steve Pieczenik, M.D., Ph.D., at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vicwIrB9JFw , and those of a panoply of psychologists and psychotherapists at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe... .

The video 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory, made by the independent journalist James Corbett, expresses another response to such characterization, and is available at: http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspira....

There is a Fifties-vintage song by "Osama & the Bin Ladens" (which in my opinion is excellent) entitled, It's All A Lie (Still You Believe) at:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjKUs65beKg .

At the website http://9-11.meetup.com/ you will find a map indicating Meetup groups around the world covering the topic of 9/11. Note that these are only Meetup groups, and as such do not represent all the groups which are concerned with 9/11.

We meet formally every month, generally on the second Saturday from 3 to 6PM at various locations, often with other groups, and informally sometimes during the week at various locations.

We have three different kinds of meetings: 1.) ongoing, regularly scheduled meetings, e.g., the regular monthly meeting generally on the second Saturday and the monthly bannering observance of the 11th of every month, which may change location; 2.) occasional, infrequent weekly meetings, where venting and planning (in that order) occur, which may occur on different days and at different locations, but which are generally around the middle of the week, (Wednesday) starting at 7PM; and 3.) presences at other events, including the meetings of other groups, which not infrequently occur with very little notice.

Other kinds of meetings, e.g. tablings and street vending of merchandise and distribution of literature, and outdoor showings of videos, occur depending on interest, weather, and moon phase.

The group has assumed the form standard for most political activism groups: main body of members, and a smaller, self-constituted body, often called a "steering group" or "steering committee." Other groups make their steering committees official, with titles and such. In this group, anybody who shows up at a REGULAR MONTHLY MEETING is ipso facto a member of the Steering Committee for that month, with an equal vote on any and all decisions. (Here's your chance to grab power!)

It should be noted that although Meetup automatically assumes that all and only the people who RSVP YES show up, and not anyone else, this is frequently not the case, so the attendance figures which Meetup automatically posts are frequently not accurate, and comments on and reviews of the meetings are frequently neglected---by everyone involved. This is not advocated, but it is a fact. Don't assume a meeting was small or that nothing happened just because Meetup's tally and comments seem to indicate that. We're often more interested in doing than in telling what we've done, and we just have too many events to be much concerned about rating them.

In addition to talking in person, we have recently opened a 9/11 map on DebateGraph, in which we invite you (i.e., everyone) to participate. Go to: http://debategraph.or... and click on the tiny "Debategraph" tab on the bottom left to begin to use this new tool.

We have a sister site at http://stl-911.info... maintained by Runyan Wilde. You can order anything from Amazon through our sister site at no extra cost, and we will receive a small percentage each month. Just go to http://stl-911.info... - there is a PayPal donation button near the top, and a universal Amazon search icon further down, with an Amazon book carousel in the middle. Then, if you click on the Store button or any of the Books pages, there are universal search widgets, carousel widgets, slideshow widgets, and individual widgets for each book. Please feel free to explore the website. If you purchase anything online you help support this group at no cost to you by doing it this way.

More detailed information is found by clicking on the "More" tab, and then the "Files" tab.

An international calendar of 9/11 events is at http://www.911truth.o...

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Contact:
Donald Stahl
12079 Pattern Drive, St. Louis, MO 63138
politicstahl@hotmail.com.


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