Know Who You Are Sailing With

From: Tim M.
Sent on: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 4:21 PM

Dear GWAW Members:

I generally avoid flame wars, and even more so public ones - I think disputes between web group members are best kept between themselves ALMOST always.  On rare occasions, however, I come across someone who I think others need to know about.

Most if not all of you received notice of a "MeetUp" to participate in the Great Pumpkin Regatta on "Willin'."  The organizer went on to say sign up for the wait list and he would get back to you "presently," to let you know if he had a spot for you.

I and others responded, which required filling out a sailing resume questionnaire once you had clicked on the wait list tab.  Then I waited to hear back.  Nothing.  So at nearly midnight before the race, having been left hanging all day, I switched my RSVP to "not attending," and posted a comment on the event noting that it was "not cool" to leave people hanging like that.

The organizer deleted my comment.  I posted another comment that it was uncool to leave people hanging and even more uncool to delete unfavorable comments.  He deleted that comment too.  No big deal - he's rude - so what.  That would have been the end of it.

But then Mr. Tishler felt compelled to go a step further and send me an email.  The following exchange transpired:

Meetup Message from: Mark, Assistant Organizer of Got Wind and Water . . . What is your problem?


I don't know you, but my first impression is not a good one.

Why do you think that it is benificial to write disparaging remarks about one of my events and email the entire membership about it?

I will decide who crews on my boat for a race and my regular crew get priority over anyone else.

I will await your appology.

Mark Tishler

From: Timothy McCormick <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30,[masked]:28 PM
Subject: RE: Mark sent you a message: What is your problem?

My problem is with your rudeness. You post a Meetup, you ask people to fill out a questionnaire about their qualifications, you say in the description that you are setting up a wait list and will let people know if you will have room for them, and then you just blow us all off without a word. That's really rude, Mark, and quite frankly it's chickenshit to pull down a comment complaining about it.

So that's my problem. Your handling of your Meetup was far below the level of simple courtesy that the rest of us who are skippers and assistant organizers on GWAW show the members of this group and that they are entitled to expect. It is you who owe the apology.


From: Mark Tishler [mailto:[address removed]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30,[masked]:09 PM
To: Timothy McCormick
Subject: Re: Mark sent you a message: What is your problem?


Do bother to contact me further. I don't have time to listen to a little crybaby whine because you were not selected.

If you want to meet, I will gladly teach you some manners.


I will just leave it at that.  I think Mr. Tishler's own words, particularly the implied threat to teach me "some manners," say more about him than any further comment I could make.

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