(Mountaineer 7) Mt Baldy via Bear Cayon, Back via Ski Hut Trail

  • September 7, 2013 · 8:00 AM
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This is the 5th in a series of 7 hikes, leading to Iron Mountain attempt on 10/5.

Organizer: Mike Cheng

Nature lovers: (6:30 am start, pace <1.5 mph)
Lead: Scott Hathaway
Hikers: Monica E, Karthik, Vince, Romyleen, Sondra, Yessie,  Mayra, Ledy, Larry, Erik, Bernie

Fast hikers: (7:00 am start, pace[masked] mph)
Lead: Mike Cheng
Hikers: Brena, Steve Negrete, Phil, Mimi Win, Shelly Z, Carola K, Phil, Rosa, Mukti, Maya

Trail running/hiking group: (8:00 am start, pace >2.5 mph)
Lead: Mark (ex-weekend sailor)
Hikers:Willie, Leslie Luna, Tim, Jeremy O, Kevin Baker, Josue, Sue, Stein

Sweep: Phil

Our goal is for the whole group to reach Baldy summit between 10:45 -11:30 am, where we will have lunch.

Sweep will be provided for downhill only.

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Location: Mt Baldy, CA

Hike Difficulty: Advanced, Level 9/10

Distance: 11 miles

Elevation Gain: 6000'

Time: 8 hours

Trail condition: Single file, rocky trail, partially shaded

Water: Minimum 4 liters (If you bring less than this amount, you will be in big trouble.)

Guest: no

Dog: no

Toilette: At the visitor center

Parking: Street parking near the visitor center. Adventure Pass is required.

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Direction: Take the 210 east and exit on Baseline Road (exit 52). Turn left at the light at the end of the ramp on to Baseline Road. Make the next right on to Padua Avenue. Drive 1.7 miles and turn right onto Mount Baldy Road (there will be a traffic light). Continue up Mount Baldy Road for seven miles to Mount Baldy Village.

The trailhead is next to Mt Baldy Village Church at the intersection of Bear Canyon Rd and Mt Baldy Rd. Find parking on the street near this point. The Church no longer allows hiker parking at its lot. Parking is 1/2 mile down the road across street. It is the dirt lot across the street from the trout pond.

What to bring: hat, sunscreen, long pants, hiking poles, energy bar, lunch, snacks, water, and the usual stuff.

Proficiency: Anyone interested in participating in this event must share with my your hiking activities during the past 3 months to substantiate your proficiency before your name will be added to the list.

Early departure: If you need to be seperated from the group for any reason, you must inform the hiker leader. Not knowing your whereabout may prompt us to report your missing to proper authority for further actions.

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This is the 5th in a series of 7 hikes that take us to alpine forest around Mt Baldy and Iron Mountain. Each hike is more difficult than the previous one, allowing us to gradually build up our strength and endurance as we progress in this series.

Our goal is to summit Iron Moutain on 10/5. Only best of the best will be able to join me for that epic hike.

1st hike to Timber Mountain, the elevation gain is 3,400' in 9 miles. (7/13)

2nd hike to Allison Saddle via Heaton Flat, the gain is 3600' in 9 miles (7/27)

3rd hike to 3T, the gain is 4,700' in 10.5 miles. (8/10)

4th hike to West Baldy & Mt. Baldy via Ski Hut trail, the gain is 4,200' in 9 miles. (8/24)

5th hike to Mt. Baldy via Bear Cayon, back via Ski Hut, the gain is 6,000' in 11 miles. (9/7)

6th hike to Mt. Baldy via Bear Canyon trail and back, the gain is 6,000' in 12.5 miles. (9/21)

7th hike to Iron Mountain, the gain is 7,000' in 14 miles. (10/5)

Priority in future hikes will be given to hikers staying with this series. The last hike to Iron Mountain is considered the most difficult single trail hike in So Cal. After this series, sky will be your limit.

This series are designed for hikers serious about advancing their capability. The group will naturally be smaller. Hence, if you sign up but do not show up, you will be barred from the remainding hikes of this series. Your understanding is appreciated.

If you are not moving up the waiting list while others are, that means I do not have enough information on your past hiking history to know that this hike is within your reach. You need to share your hike history with me to be added to the official list.

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Trail description:

Mount San Antonio, commonly known as Old Baldy or Mt Baldy, at 10,068 ft, is the highest peak in the San Gabriel Mountains, and the highest point in Los Angeles County. Mount San Antonio's sometimes snow-capped peaks are visible on clear days and dominate the view of the Los Angeles skyline.

Bear Canyon Trail offers some of the finest scenery and rewarding views in the San Gabriel Mountains high country. The first 1.8 miles to Bear Flat delightfully travels a superb single-track trail adorned with fern under a rich canopy of live oak, bay, and bigcone Douglas-fir. Beyond Bear Flat the trail begins to steeply climb the chaparral-covered southeast flank of Mt. Baldy's great south ridge, You're rewarded with expanding views of Ontario Ridge, Icehouse Canyon, the "Three T's" and Baldy Notch. You'll then enter an open conifer forest with wide-reaching views toward the expansive San Gabriel Mountains to the west.

 

 

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Waiting list priority: People who hike with me or with Los Angeles Hiking Group frequently will be given priority when they are on the waiting list.

No show policy: If you sign up for an event and no show, you will either lose your waiting list priority or not be able to sign up for the next event.

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Warning:

If you have prior medical condiction or a family history of illnesses pertaining to heart, lungs, brain, etc. that can be aggravated by heat and physical exertion, this is not the hike for you.

If you have never done a hike of this distance or difficulty before, this hike will be very difficult for you. It may well be your death march. The mountain is not going anywhere. We will schedule this event again in the future. Do it when your mind and body are ready.

Hiking is a recreation, not a suicide mission.

Release of Liability:

The organizer (me) of this trip is a volunteer and is not a professional guide. The function of the organizer is only to organize this trip. Each person who signs up for a trip/hike/or outing is responsible for his or her own safety and the safety of his or her guests.

By signing up for this trip, or any other event organized by me, you are acknowledging that you are aware and have made your guests aware of the risks, dangers and hazards associated with any outdoor activity and freely accept and fully assume all such risks, dangers and hazards, and further agree to release and discharge the organizer (me) of this hike from and against any and all liability arising from your and your guest's participation in the group activities.

In addition, you and your guests are acknowledging that you agree to the Meetup terms of service especially paragraph 6.2: http://www.meetup.com/terms/

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Members interested in joining this hike must have a profile photo showing his/her face. This is a requirement of the L.A. Hiking Group. Without it, you will not be allowed to sign up.

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  • Mike C.

    Hi Everyone. .

    I left L.A. Hiking recently to form a new group US Hiking. In less than a week, we already have over 260 members and 20 events scheduled. .

    I would like to extend an invitation to you to become a member so that you are in the loop for all the exciting events we have planned. This is the link: http://www.meetup.com/USHiking/­ .

    Best wishes to you and hope to see you on trail soon.

    March 17

  • "BERNIE"

    Despite the possability of heat this turned out to be a very enjoyable hike. Our little group almost summited but due to a unique complication we were unable. Thank you mike for turning us back when the thunder and lightning stirred up. The village was a relief after our descent. That beer and delicious meal hit the spot. Thank you Mike for a splendid day.

    September 9, 2013

  • Brena

    Great hike as usual!! The 6000 elevation gain is from the point where we started or is it from sea level?

    September 7, 2013

    • Mike C.

      From church parking lot.

      September 7, 2013

    • Brena

      Thanks Mike, I thought it was that, just wanted to be sure.

      September 8, 2013

  • sondra

    Thanks mike for organizing and leading and making sure the hail did not get us . Thanks yessie and scott for the shuttle and thanks scott rosa and lefy and monica and everyone who ordered the elicious lunch at the village afterwards

    September 8, 2013

  • Mayra

    Another great hike/time with really nice people to talk/hike, thanks Mike for organizing such great hikes. I had not hiked with Los Angeles Hiking for a while and coming back to all this great experiences leaves me wanting more. Thanks for all your time in organizing.

    1 · September 8, 2013

  • Carola

    Great hike. Interesting weather up there today.
    Our car shuttle worked out perfectly. Drove up empty this morning, left full this afternoon.

    1 · September 7, 2013

    • Yesenia

      Thank you for giving us a ride to the Village! It was also great meeting all you ladies. :)

      September 7, 2013

    • Mimi W.

      Thanks for the ride back.

      September 8, 2013

  • romyleen

    Challenging trails, unexpected hail and going off course to see the plane... Awesome hike!!! Wonderful hikers & great organizers, cheers Mike& Scott. (P.s thanks Phil for the sweep& extra credit!!:))

    September 8, 2013

  • Mike C.

    Mountain weather were clearly unpredictable. The intense hail storm was an unforgettable experience for many of us. It was our blessing that the whole group descended safely. Hail storm and lightning aside, this must be the strongest group of hikers that I had the pleasure of hiking with.

    Trail runners:
    Nearly all runners summited before 10:40 am. The ascent time of 2 1/2 hours must have been a record.

    Fast hikers:
    Nearly all fast hikers ascended in less than 3 1/2 hours. This was an incredible achievement.

    Nature lovers:
    By 12:00 noon, nearly all Nature Lovers had reached 9,500'. Without the lightning, they would have reached summit by 12:30 noon. Leading Nature Lovers reached summit by 11:40 am. I want to thank Mark and Scott for leading. You guys were the best lead anywhere. I also want to thank Phil for sweeping. You were the most reliable. Thank you for waiting in the hail storm for the very last person to leave the summit. We are very grateful for what you did.

    8 · September 7, 2013

    • Mike C.

      Phil, You tool a couple of pictures in the hailstorm. I can't wait to see them.

      September 8, 2013

    • Scott H.

      Anytime Mike, thanks Mark and Phil, we had a great time!

      1 · September 8, 2013

  • Scott H.

    Thanks Mike for putting together another great experience! The times below reflect the the strength of LA Hiking! Always a pleasure being with such amazing people!

    4 · September 8, 2013

  • Scott H.

    Beautiful landscape, weather was great for hiking except for the hailstorm!

    September 8, 2013

  • Mark (.

    Where we were,

    http://www.everytrail.com/view_...­

    stats, 10.2 miles, 5889 feet elevation gain

    September 7, 2013

  • Ledy

    Mike, you're pretty awesome in organizing hikes, not just this one, but all the hikes you organize. We know it takes a lot of your time planning and leading them. A big thank you. I hope you will continue to organize and lead them. No one else can plan hikes the way
    you do with safety first-hand.

    5 · September 7, 2013

  • Monica E

    Thanks Mike and Scott for a memorable hike. My first time from the village.

    2 · September 7, 2013

  • Yesenia

    I enjoyed the hike Mike, with hail and all. Thank you for your time and effort in organizing these hikes. PS: I hope you looked stunning with the purple shirt! ;)

    2 · September 7, 2013

  • Vince

    Great hike Mike..but its not easy to descend the summit while getting pelted by hail!....lol

    September 7, 2013

  • mukti

    Thank u Mike for organizing the hike , had gr8 time the rain & hail made it better ...Mt . badly is one of my favorite hikes...

    2 · September 7, 2013

  • Sue

    Mike, Mukti, Leslie and I got very cold on top and went down with Stein, Willie and Josue. Rain cloud looked bad and wanted to make sure we didn't get caught in the storm. Thanks for organizing and giving us good reason to get up early and hit the trails

    2 · September 7, 2013

  • Mike C.

    Today's Baldy Ski Lift weather report at 5:00 am 58 degree with 4 mph wind.

    1 · September 7, 2013

  • Willie

    Mark, I'm in, see you in the morning. sorry Tim, but I drove 2 weeks ago, now its my turn to take a nap on the way home..

    1 · September 6, 2013

  • Mike C.

    Hi Everyone:

    This hike requires car shuttle. The best approach is to park your car at Manker Flats and then carpool down to parking lots at the village. We will gather at the Church parking lot. You can't park at church parking lot.

    If you do not see anyone at Manker Flats to carpool with, you should turn around and drive back to the village and park.

    If you already have a full load of carpool passengers, you should go straight to village and park at either the Visitor Center or Trout Pond Parking. To provide time for car shuttle, actual hike will start 20 minutes after the posted time.

    Each group should have its own carpool. If you plan to park at Manker Flats, please reply to this post so that we can account for all the cars fo car shuttle. This hike has staged starts. If you are late, you will be in trouble right away because people around you are much faster than you and they will not sweep for you. If you are late, it is safer for you to skip the event.

    September 3, 2013

    • Carola

      Mukti too.

      September 6, 2013

    • Karthik

      i saw these msgs just now. Yes i want to carpool. Ill be at REI Arcadia 6 am

      September 6, 2013

  • Willie

    Mark, Josue, hey guys !!! make room for me..

    2 · September 4, 2013

    • Josue V.

      I can drive tomorrow just borrowed a car . LOL the things I do for you guys.

      September 6, 2013

    • Mark (.

      willie, leslie ???

      September 6, 2013

  • Leslie L.

    Hi Sue, would you be interesting in carpool tomorrow?

    September 5, 2013

    • Josue V.

      Leslie did you get a ride ?? I am driving tomorrow.

      September 6, 2013

    • Josue V.

      Harvey and E.Wilson carpooling lot at 6:45,[masked] E Wilson Ave, Glendale, CA 91206. OK ???

      September 6, 2013

  • Jeremy O.

    I'm in the 8am group and coming from los feliz - if anyone wants a ride...

    September 6, 2013

  • Mike C.

    Mimi, Karthik will carpool with you at 6:00 am at Arcadia REI. There isn't enough people for 2 carpools so I will drive straight to the village alone.

    September 6, 2013

  • Noel J.

    Mike, sorry for the last minute cancel. I know I forfeit my shot at iron mountain but I can't make it tomorrow. I would like to still try the next hike though. Anyways have fun tomorrow!

    September 6, 2013

    • Mike C.

      Noel, You can try again on the next hike.

      September 6, 2013

  • Scott H.

    I'll be at REI at 5am, Manker Flats at 6am.

    September 4, 2013

    • sondra

      Its just me and Monica coming, Yessie said she would shuttle us also, so want to confirm time with her so we will leave at the right time from the valley. We are in your group though. Lets nail down the time. thanks

      September 6, 2013

    • Yesenia

      Hello Sondra, Vince is also carpooling with us. I'm planning on being at Manker Flats at 5:45AM, I'll wait for you ladies & Vince there to shuttle you down.

      September 6, 2013

  • Shelly Z

    Sorry for the late request but can I get a ride from Manker flats to the village. I am in the 7 am group but happy to do the 6:30 am start if necessary. Thanks.

    September 6, 2013

    • Mike C.

      Shelly, Carola and Rosa will be at Manker Flats on 6:45 am. You could carpool with them.

      September 6, 2013

  • Mike C.

    According to Baldy Ski Lift, the high temperature today is 71 degree with 13 mph wind. There is a 40% chance of thunder shower for Saturday afternoon, starting at 2:00 pm. Foretasted rain amount is 0.04". By 2:00 pm, we will mostly likely be near Manker Flats on the way down. Our hike will proceed as planned.

    September 6, 2013

  • Tim

    Hey Mark, long time no see...let's carpool tomorrow. I'm in Santa Monica, call me today[masked]

    September 6, 2013

    • Mark (.

      Hi Tim, nice to hear from you again. OK, I will call you, I am expecting replies from Josue, Willie and Leslie. They want to carpool too.

      September 6, 2013

  • Mike C.

    David, Noel J, Mukti and Maya, All of you will start with the 7:00 am group. If you think this is the wrong group for you, let me know. Thanks.

    September 5, 2013

  • Mike C.

    Hi Everyone:

    Please note that this event has a staged start so there will not be any sweep on the way up. If you are not able to continue and need to turn around, you must let one of your fellow hikers know so that we will not be looking for you.

    I will not leave the summit until the last hiker reaches the summit. Phil will be our sweep on the way down.

    Many hikers in this event are training for the Iron Mountain event. Therefore, there will be few rests along the way. You should hike at your own pace. If you can hike faster than the lead, feel free to pass him. Please note that group leads are not obligated to wait for you on the way up because they are training as well.

    If you are in trouble, you need to let your fellow hikers know right away. I do carry a satellite phone with me. if needed, I can always call for help. It is always cold at the top. Please bring one long sleeve shirt for the summit.

    September 5, 2013

  • Mike C.

    Hi Everyone:

    Just to give you a heads up, actual hike will promptly start 10 minutes after posted time. Please time your arrival accordingly.

    You must bring a minimum of 4 liters of water or you will definitely be in big trouble.

    I am 5' 10" tall and weigh 167 lb. I will need 4 liters of water, not a bit less. If you are taller or bigger than me, you will need more water.

    If you are late, you should skip the event. Don't try to catch up. The best way is to arrive early.

    September 4, 2013

    • Karthik

      Mike I noticed that it went up to 95 after 12 today

      September 5, 2013

    • Mike C.

      Karthik, The most accurate weather report will be the one posted by the ski lift. They are much more accurate than Accuweather or Weather Underground.

      September 5, 2013

  • Mike C.

    Finally, I will have the pleasure of meeting Sue in person. By the way, I did buy a pair of trail running shoes to lighten up my load.

    1 · September 5, 2013

    • Sue

      Mike, same here. I've been in Baldy for several weekends, heard you were there but never ran into you. Last weekend Baldy area was cool. Perfect for hiking. Hoping to have similar weather.

      1 · September 5, 2013

    • Mike C.

      I just checked with ski lift people, the high temperature today was 70 degree with 14 mph wind. If the weather persists, it would be perfect for hiking.

      September 5, 2013

  • Kevin B.

    Any late starters want to carpool? I can fit quite a few people in my van, but I'm coming from Pomona so you'd have to get yourself at least that far. I usually just throw my bike in the car so I can park and ride down from Manker.

    September 5, 2013

  • sondra

    OK I have myself and 3 other ladies in my car coming for the nature lovers hike. So we will need a shuttle down if anyone can fit us I would appreciate it. Plan to park at Manker flats.

    September 4, 2013

    • Yesenia

      Hello Sondra, I'll meet you at Manker Flats. I'll be there early and shuttle all of you down.

      September 4, 2013

    • sondra

      Thanks Yessie, actually it will be me and Monica, Brena is in the faster group but thanks!!!

      September 5, 2013

  • Mark (.

    Carpooling ??? I will be coming from Marina del Rey area, hiking with 8: 00 AM group.

    1 · September 3, 2013

    • Josue V.

      Yes I am right of the 101 freeway and yes it's on the way. Don't worry I will hook you up cash ,food or drinks.

      September 5, 2013

    • Josue V.

      :)

      September 5, 2013

  • Mike C.

    I will be picking up carpool at 5:50 am at Ralph's on N Lake Ave and E Walnut in Pasadena. Rosa, Carina, Karthik and Mark, if you want to carpool with me, let me know.

    September 3, 2013

    • Carina

      I am so bummed!!! but I can't make this hike! HAve a great day on the trails

      1 · September 4, 2013

    • rosa

      Thanks Mike, no carpool for mi this time.

      September 4, 2013

  • Monica E

    I'm coming from Thousand Oaks and in the Nature Lover's EARLY group. I would like to carpool and can drive. I have an Adventure Pass.

    September 2, 2013

    • sondra

      I can fit you in my car if you can be in Sherman Oaks one hour before hike start time. On Coldwater Canyon

      September 3, 2013

    • Monica E

      See you at 5:30. Just wondering if that's early enough?

      September 4, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Mike - Can you put me in the Nature Lovers group?

    September 4, 2013

  • Mike C.

    I will be picking up carpool at Ralph's on N Lake and E Walnut at 5:50 am for the 7:00 am group. If you want to carpool with me, please reply here.

    September 4, 2013

    • Mike C.

      I am moving the carpool location to Arcadia REI as well.

      September 4, 2013

  • Mike C.

    If you have not checked your starting time, please take time to do that.

    September 3, 2013

  • Mike C.

    David and Noel J, Do you guys have any preference as to which group you want to start with?

    September 3, 2013

  • Josue V.

    Hi Mr Cheng !! I hope to make this hike but I need to wait till the 5th to RSVP . Yeah I know it suck. Well hope to see you on the trail.

    September 2, 2013

    • Mike C.

      Josue, No problem. Just let me know.

      September 2, 2013

    • Josue V.

      Mike I just got a green light !!

      1 · September 3, 2013

  • sondra

    To the lady from T.O. who needed a ride, I have two riders and room for one more, we are meeting in Sherman Oaks on Coldwater Canyon email me at [masked]. I am also in the early group so leaving one hour before start time.

    September 3, 2013

  • Mike C.

    For those on the waiting list, this hike is very challenging. In addition, this group is very fast. Unless you are used to more than 5000' elevation gain in a day hike at a fast pace, this hike is not for you. We will be using Three Pace Starts (TPS) for this event. Our estimated summit time will be before 11:30 am. That by itself is near a record for a group. Please pause and think it through before signing up.

    September 1, 2013

  • Brad B.

    Sorry, I need to cancel, I forgot I was going to be on my way back from Peru on September 7. I will see you on the next hike.

    August 26, 2013

  • Carola

    Thanks Mike :)

    August 26, 2013

  • Renee S.

    I'm so sorry but I need to cancel. My workload is too heavy and I can't be off-call at this time.

    August 21, 2013

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