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San Francisco Victorian Architecture and Mansion Tours, as well as Berkeley. Architectural and point of interest walks and hikes/walks on Mt.Tamalpais.
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A conversation is needed about Meetup "No Show" issues! The rule of thumb for most Meetup groups is a 50% rate of RSVP no shows. My goal is to handle the No Show issue in a positive way. And conversation is a positive way to find solutions.
There are many causes/reasons for no show behavior. Here are a couple.
Using Meetup RSVPs for shortlisting ones calendar down to a final choice? In other words RSVPing for several interesting Events for a given day. Then when the morning arrives picking the most interesting Event and blowing off the other RSVPs. (Please don't do that.)
There may be a need for Cognitive Behavior Therapy for last minute, "Emotional Reasoning" ie. I don't feel like it, therefore I shouldn't do it, or just going negative about the Event outcome. Seek specific therapy, for getting over ER and negativity, getting over these makes life better.
Here is an important request.
If you are not 100% sure you will attend, DON'T RSVP until you are sure. For those who are indecisive by nature, do the very best you can.
Lastly I think when members attend and are witness to an Event that had 28 RSVPs, that sees 10 actually show up is not a great way for the Event to get started. I know it is initially dis-heartening for me and not a very nice way to get started. Let's talk under the Discussions Tab and seek solutions together.
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We'll identify these basics about some of the houses; the architect, year built, name of first owner, builder's name, architectural style and maybe a human interest story from the house's history.
Videos of past hikes are available here, We'll be walking in very nice areas, 3 to 4 miles. We'll walk in the shade if too hot and in the sun if chilly. Try to find the fog when the temps rise. Have lunch with a spectacular view and out of the wind. Hopefully with picnic tables and restrooms.
Safety is always my #1 priority. I will be as aware as I can of any danger. But I can't be responsible for your safety. As adults you are responsible for your own personal safety and what you decide to do.
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Look at some of the over 6000 photos and picture yourself right there. Stay in shape and look ahead to fun days, sign-up for some hikes in the future while on-line here.
The group is for walkers and hikers who love to be immersed in the gorgeous, special places California offers. And while in that immersion, connect not only emotionally to these places, but learn about the natural science and human history of the locations. And to do this with kindness, patience and open heartedly. And best of all to make friends with those we get to know.
But the reality of managing a Meetup group is hard work. It has to be done carefully. Good judgement and basic people managing skills are needed. About roughly, 50% of those signing up for an Event, will actually show up.
I tell frequent no-showers to not bother to RSVP anymore and just show-up and surprise us! But some are RSVPing to whatever is interesting and then choose as the weekend approaches. I call it short-listing. I guess it's nice to make the short-lists.
When you compare Meetup to the social clubs of the past. Ski Clubs, Swim Clubs, Yachting Clubs, Country Clubs, Sierra Club, American Youth Hostels etc. Meetup is just Club Lite. Committing in a very personal relationship is a challenge for many. Is the same thing happening here in broader social relationships? Maybe keeping it lite is a way of compartmentalizing, keeping safe emotional boundaries. If friendships develop it will happen over the long term when an amount of certainty has developed?
If your work or life situation is totally stressing you out look for the Forest Bathing moments and Ocean Bathing (at Duxbury Reef) on the hikes that have as a goal reaching a meditative state of mind.
I love doing architectural tours of the Victorian and Mansion areas of San Francisco. Also Berkeley as fascinating residential architecture and the history to go with it as well.
These are very doable hikes for everyone who can hike. If you can manage walking up some very steep hills, can maintain your balance on very rocky, root covered uneven surfaces and have the stamina to walk about five miles you'll do fine. I think the best thing is to have a routine where you are walking everyday including going on these hikes. I've been leading hikes on Mt.Tam since 1995, less so now. So I know the areas very well. And also what to look for and when. let me know if I can answer any questions, as far as getting started?
If the above concerns you let me say this. You have to start somewhere. Walking is very gentle. Come do as much as you can and then come again and do a little more. If you have to stop and go back to your car, just be aware of the return route. There is so much to gain, don't let negative concerns stop you.
The cost of living in the Bay Area is very high. We all have to work, or have had to work, very hard, to afford to live here. One of the mitigating factors is the openness to diversity found here. One aspect of life here we can control is how we access one of the most beautiful outdoor recreation areas in the whole country. Not only the beautiful lands, the Bay and bio-diversity but the weather to allow us to get outside 24/365.
With the above said, utilize our amazing outdoors to forget about work and worries or the ravages of age and everyday cares and achieve a relaxed state of mind and body to the greatest extent you can. That's the goal of this Meetup and has been my personal goal for over twenty-seven years of spending as much time outdoors as I can. I'm never disappointed by this local outdoor experience. As well as the socializing, potential new friends met. Resulting in fulfillment of another vital need, maintaining our emotional well being and staying mentally healthy as well.
The bang for the effort put in, outweighs the driving time effort and the trade-offs, versus something else I could be doing.
It seems many have the impression that to have a fulfilling outdoor experience something very special must be experienced, via thrill seeking. The lure of a waterfall, spectacular views, sunsets, the full moonrise, the very peak of the wildflower bloom, some sort of special outdoor event, an unusual snowfall here, the height of fall foliage, mushrooms in profusion or some other unusual or rare occurrence must be sought to get the bang the effort requires.
Don't get me wrong the above are all fabulous. But they do not result in your having a sustainable, regular program for good health, well being, relaxation and fitness. And the great fallacy is, yes the above are great, but a plain, old regular hike or walk, once or twice a week is so fulfilling all by itself. Not just hit or miss thrill seeking, but a way of life that results in sustainable, ongoing happiness and health.
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Upcoming events (4+)
See all- Part 2 of-Help Create an Architectural Walking Tour-Mission Dist.Southeast SideHaus Coffee, San Francisco, CA
See Event Description for, May 8th, 2025. (Required reading!)
It's hard to resist having lunch along 24th St. Allow extra time if joining for lunch.
Above photo of last time, Part 1, a congenial group dining at La Vaca Birria at 24th & Treat.If you don't see anyone in front of Haus Coffee, look for us all the way in the back, in the outdoor seating area. If you are first to arrive please take a larger corner seating area for the group.
For a lot of photos of Part 1 click the link.
This time I'm not permitting guests or pets. You'll have to have your guest join to bring a "guest".
About parking: Parking tickets are up to $97.00, I know first hand. You know it's the siren's call of parking spot hunting. When street sweeping time is coming soon, there are a lot of empty spots in the most close by, desirable locations. Like nearby Treat Ave. Beware on Thursdays there is no parking, street sweeping, from noon to 2pm., on the East side of the Treat St. Don't be lured there by the empty spots . (Just around the corner from where we are meeting.)
- Architectural Heritage Tour-Presidio Heights,San Francisco,(with urban gossip?)Broadway & Scott, San Francisco, San Francisco, CA
Special Note: Since its my birthday today I'm adding something special. A second act after lunch. Join me in a grand mini-tour of Mt.Tam. Ending with pizza at Angelo's in Mill Valley.
From Presidio Hts., Mt.Tam is only twenty minutes away. For those who live in San Francisco without a car, I have room for four in my car. I'll drop you off afterward at Marin City Transit Hub. So bring or wear your hiking boots as we take a grand tour with some short hikes of some special places on Mt.Tam. Mt.Tam is having a very late Spring. Many wildflowers are out there. Maybe we'll get a chance to visit one of my old and favorite haunts along the way, the Calif. Alpine Club's, Alpine Lodge. It's the 100th anniversary of its ownership by the Club.This tour highlights not only the diversity of the architecture, but also the mix of architects and people who built, occupied and maintained these grand properties. (I've refrained from including the "gossipy", urban legend stories in the past, but some folks love it, so why not! Let me know if you have any for around here? Sadly the Nancy Pelosi horror story nearby, is horribly true.)
I also have ephemera we can see to get a feel for what life was like in Presidio Hts. about ninety years ago.
The walking tour covers approximately 14 blocks with noted architecture, overall we'll be walking 34 blocks, approximately 3.5 miles. With some of the usual steep SF hills, and one uphill stair path, the two uphill blocks of Lyon St. Steps.
We'll start in Pacific Hts. and take in the general architecture there, allowing us to compare its architecture, to that of Presidio Heights.
(Near the end of the tour we'll pass by the Swedenborgian Church of San Francisco. A weekly Sunday tour of this early Arts & Crafts gem is offered at 1:00pm. Tour timing is to arrive there a little before 1:00pm for those wanting to take in the Swedenborgian Church, a fantastic Arts & Crafts gem from 1895. You might want to do some prior Googling or click above to learn of its history.)
We're meeting at the intersection of Scott & Broadway. Ample parking on the nearby streets. (There are no restrooms until we get to the Church. Unless we stop at Temple Emanual at about halfway. Let me know if this is needed or you just want to take at look? There may be an open porta pottie along the way, if in dire need?)Here are several photos, including inside the house at Presidio and Pacific, the house pictured above. An Arts & Crafts example.
Popular architectural styles in the early development of Presidio Hts.:
At the turn of the century, the brown shingle, Arts & Crafts style was popular. The Arts and Crafts movement in the United States sought to unite social reform, architecture, art, and the decorative arts. The hallmark of buildings in this style were their open interior plans and their straightforward, but beautifully finished and furnished interiors. In California known as the First Bay Traditional or Regional style,(later the Eichlers) we'll see this brown shingle style in evidence at the beginning of the tour.
In addition to this style the following gained popularity.
1895 the 1910 Edwardian, Classical and Colonial Revival: The continued Victorian house elaboration of ornament and creative facade shapes reached its height in the early 1890s at the end of the Victorian era.After that there was a gradual move towards simplicity and away from the excessive flamboyance of our beloved Victorians and toward order. Eccentricity gave way to strict conventions, quiet lines and understatement using quality materials. Money now made understatement its chief method of display. Style was no longer measured in pounds of gingerbread ornament per square foot, but its elegant proportions and an air of dignified grandeur. We'll be seeing this today in what I call, townhouse, row house, and really very expensive; the mansions of Presidio Hts.
Part of our tour will take us to the nearby enclave of Presidio Terrace.
For a listing of the houses, date built, builders and architects of the houses in Presidio Terrace click here. Or see addresses 1-40 below:Let's play an architectural name game when we get to Presidio Terrace. We'll pair up and see if we can find and correctly identify each house (there are 36), listed below. Note the address in many cases is not visible. (Make a hard copy, or have your phone ready with the page below for a fun game!)
| Address | Architect | Style | Year Built |
| ------- | --------- | ----- | ---------- |
| 1 Presidio Terrace | Newsom & Newsom | Jacobean Revival | 1929 |
| 2 Presidio Terrace | Frank Van Tees | Anglo Italianate | 1905 |
| 3 Presidio Terrace | McDonald & Applegarth | Elizabethan Revival | 1908 |
| 4 Presidio Terrace | McDonald & Applegarth | Prairie School | 1911 |
| 5 Presidio Terrace | McDonald & Applegarth | Craftsman | 1908 |
| 6 Presidio Terrace | Henry C. Smith | Mission Revival | 1911 |
| 9 Presidio Terrace | Albert Farr | Mediterranean | 1927 |
| 10 Presidio Terrace | Charles Whittlesey | Prairie School | 1909 |
| 11 Presidio Terrace | Charles Whittlesey | Prairie School | 1909 |
| 12 Presidio Terrace | A. Lacy Worswick | Craftsman | 1909 |
| 13 Presidio Terrace | Samuel Lightner Hyman | Mediterranean | 1922 |
| 14 Presidio Terrace | Samuel Heiman | Mediterranean | 1921 |
| 15 Presidio Terrace | Havens & Toepke | Colonial Revival | 1905 |
| 16 Presidio Terrace | Bakewell & Brown | Colonial Revival | 1910 |
| 17 Presidio Terrace | Ward & Bolles | CA Contemporary | 1951 |
| | Andrew Skurman | | rebuilt 2010 |
| 18 Presidio Terrace | Bliss & Faville | Colonial Revival | 1909 |
| 19 Presidio Terrace | Charles Whittlesey | Pueblo Revival | 1909 |
| 20 Presidio Terrace | Lewis Hobart | French Rural | 1909 |
| 21 Presidio Terrace | T. Patterson Ross | Mission Revival | 1910 |
| 22 Presidio Terrace | Edward Young | Beaux-Arts | 1907 |
| 23 Presidio Terrace | Julius Krafft | Colonial Revival | 1910 |
| 24 Presidio Terrace | Charles Whittlesey | Prairie School | 1909 |
| 25 Presidio Terrace | Charles Whittlesey | Prairie School | 1909 |
| 26 Presidio Terrace | Reid Brothers | Colonial Revival | 1909 |
| 27 Presidio Terrace | McDonald & Applegarth | Prairie School | 1909 |
| 28 Presidio Terrace | Charles Whittlesey | Prairie School | 1909 |
| 30 Presidio***Terrace | McDonald & Applegarth | Elizabethan Revival | 1909 |
| 31 Presidio Terrace | Frederick Nickerson | Colonial Revival | 1909 |
| 32 Presidio Terrace | Charles Whittlesey | Prairie School | 1909 |
| 34 Presidio Terrace | McDonald & Applegarth | Beaux-Arts | 1909 |
| 35 Presidio Terrace | Eugene Martin | Beaux-Arts | 1916 |
| 36 Presidio Terrace | Julia Morgan | Beaux-Arts | 1911 |
| 37 Presidio Terrace | Ward & Farr | Beaux-Arts | 1927 |
| 38 Presidio Terrace | George Schasty | Beaux-Arts | 1911 |
| 40 Presidio Terrace | Lewis Hobart | Mediterranean | 1919 |***30 Presidio Terrace was designed by very noted architects MacDonald & Applegarth, and constructed and lived in by Fernando Nelson. It's style is that of an English Elizabethan cottage.
Sources suggest Nelson was slightly embarrassed of his decision to live in an architect-designed house. However, he must have appreciated the design, as the next year, he constructed a smaller version for his son, William, in the Richmond District.
Take a little Google jaunt to learn about the fascinating life of F.Nelson who built over 4000 houses in SF between 1876 and 1953.
Of note, it seems that the only member of the family business who had some architectural training, were a few mail-order (remember those) courses taken by William.Also of architectural note: Julia Morgan lived nearby at Washington & Divisadero. Her formal office was downtown but she had some large projects she could walk to from her SF house. (This was after moving from the family house in Oakland, that she had lived in all her life, up until the move to SF.)
After the tour we're going to be hungry. I know I will be for sure. There is a very good, local Chinese restaurant, 4.6 star, Dynasty Dumpling, nearby, (but probably best to drive over to California & Divisadero), but very walkable, address-2786 California St. I need someone to tell me the best noodle dish or in general what to order? Let 's see who is going. Generally if 6 or more we should make a reservation.
This means the tour will end at the Swedenborgian Church. If you are not comfortable with finding your way back to the starting point, Broadway & Scott let me know and I'll take extra care in giving directions.
Note: I'm going to park my car halfway between our starting point and the restaurant to make the last leg after the restaurant a little shorter. - Tilden Park-Peak Wildflowers,in EBRP's Botanic Garden, join for a Fabulous LunchIsland Picnic Area, Berkeley, CA
The East Bay Regional Parks Botanic Garden (EBRPB) in Tilden Park has many blooming native Calif. wildflowers (with ID tags). Calif. natives group by region is the focus of EBRPB. We'll hike over to the Botanic Garden, a short distance from our new meeting location. (Next to a restroom.) With all the flowers in bloom now, this is a terrific wildflower walk. In my mind's eye EBRPB presents a mini version of Mt.Tamalpais.
Meet in the Parking Area for the Island Picnic Area, Tilden Park, 1147 Wildcat Canyon Rd, Berkeley, CA 94708. There is a restroom building, next to where we are meeting. The parking is along Wildcat Canyon Rd., a strip of diagonal spaces.Please note most of Wildcat Canyon Rd. is closed between Grizzly Peak Blvd. and Lake Anza. For access get off Grizzly Peak Blvd., at Shasta Rd. and head straight through to a left turn at Wildcat Canyon Rd.
Overall between 1.5 to 2 miles today.
Because the hiking trails are very, very uneven. Making for unstable footing, caused by rocks underfoot, tree roots sometimes growing across and along the trails and in some cases trails that slant sideways instead of being level from side to side. All of these tripping hazards, require secure foot and ankle support.
Why risk a sprained ankle or worse? When wearing hiking boots or other proper footwear will greatly lessen the risk.Opportunity for lunch stop afterward at one of many nice Berkeley/Albany restaurants. We'll choose one from the list below:
- Bua Luang Thai, milder Thai cuisine.
- Great China, the best Chinese cuisine in Berkeley.
- Kim's Cafe, Vietnamese cuisine, Turmeric noodle soup is the go to.
- Picante, A little finer Mexican cuisine, in a very nice setting.
- Revillie, Mediterranean cuisine and lots of it.
- Rose Pizzeria, It's all about the dough.
- Talavera, A little rougher Mexican cuisine, with very nice outdoor seating.
- Tea Spot, Bring takeout from nearby Whole Foods and have tea.
- Thai Farmhouse Kitchen, Spice-yer Thai cuisine with outdoor seating and free coconut ice cream for dessert.
- Vic's Chat, A go to for Indian cuisine with very nice outdoor seating.
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The photo above was taken in the Garden. On our route today we'll see WFs from all over the State of Calif. - Victorians Around Dolores Park Explored, and Houses Burned in the 1906 EQ/Fire20th St & Church St, San Francisco, CA 94114, San Francisco, CA
We'll visit the "Golden Fire Hydrant" and walk the 20th St. Fire Line where fire-fighters and citizens held the line and saved the Mission from going up in flames.
3755-20th St. is on our tour today. It is a beautiful 1889 Victorian. These interior photos show some of the beautiful interior details typical of a Victorian of this era.Here is a link to detailed histories of seven Victorians East of Noe Valley. We'll see some of these and many others on today's tour. Another link to one of the oldest houses on today's tour.
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The information below is provided if you are interested in more details about SF Victorian architecture.
Looking at a San Francisco Victorian, what to look for:
(There are five Styles)- Flat front Italianate- (earliest Victorians). (French 2nd Empire appear)
- Italianate with slanted bay windows.
- San Francisco Stick Style (also called East Lake). Simpler square bay windows now used. Overall much more elaborate decoration, ornament and gingerbread used.
- Queen Anne Tower House&Witches Cap, with angled or rounded bay windows & front gable
- Queen Anne Row House, 1, 1-1/2 or two stories. Large front gable. Possible moongate entry.
Features & "Gingerbread"
Type of Entry & Doorway(maybe a rounded or partial Moongate entry)-
Decorative Ironwork-
Floral Decor-Garlands (one of many types of decorations known as *"Gingerbread")
Fish scale&Diamond shingles-
Towers & Witch's Cap-
Stained Glass or Beveled Glass-
Carvings of grotesque faces-
Sunbursts- often painted gold color, half or full.
Gables (Queen Anne's) in a variety of material- (mainly redwood)
Newel Posts and Finials on Tower tops and roof peaks-Fernando Nelson built thousands of homes in SF. Over many, many decades. We'll also see clusters (2 to 17) of Victorian homes systematically built for the average working person by a development company, "The Real Estate Assoc." THEA, from 1870 to 1880. Not quite magnificent but many still standing.
Development of woodworking mills South of Market provided the ornaments with which to add the "gingerbread" to the Victorian houses There was an Old English custom using fancy cutouts of gingerbread to decorate wedding cakes. The term gingerbread was subsequently used for the decorating of Victorian houses. The secret ingredient was redwood. It could be carved, sawn, or turned, or soaked and press molded into almost any design
Periods
1860 - 1870s Italianate: Buildings were vertical in emphasis with rounded classical detail. Earliest had flat windows & flat roofs with false roof fronts.
1880s Stick Style (also called East Lake): The early buildings in this genre relied heavily on plane vertical board decorations. Squared off bay windows appear.
Late 1880s and 1890s Queen Anne : Gingerbread would be applied to both the Stick and Queen Ann styles in San Francisco. Sloping roofs appear. Gables and towers.
In Queen Ann surfaces are covered in a variety of patterns with fish scale and diamond shingles, lap siding and masonry, sometimes all in the same building.
Rooflines in the Queen Anne were irregular, combining the witches hat roof on a rounded or octagonal tower, sometimes decorated with a spool work of gable braces. Frieze bands of foliated patterns wrapped around towers and tall chimneys. Horizontal proportions prevailed over the general vertical emphasis of the previous styles.
If you would like a scholarly and detailed explanation with photos, click.
After the 06' earthquake apartments in substantial buildings became popular with well-to-do San Franciscans.
To check for a possible, for sale/open house tour, click this link.