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Re: [hiking-204] My email re: A little courtesy

From: Aaron G.
Sent on: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:57 AM
Keith and the Hiking Community,

I on Keith's side, as far a I am concerned he only stated the obvious.  He is not the only one to be perturbed with no-shows, a lot people are.   I didn't think the tone was anything other than serious and directed at those who fail to show some responsibility toward the group.   We are a group and our success is dependent on the behavior of the membership.   Sometimes a no-show cannot be helped, but in almost all case can be avoided.   Some people have a very high no-show ratio and I don't feel bad excluding them from my low limit off trail expeditions and limit poetry hikes.   There is no excuse for anyone who does not show up after I have on multiple occasions, reminded them not to take a space that someone on the waiting list can have.

The Santa Fe Hiking group is as a strict no-show policy group requires "no-shows" to post their reason  before they can go on another hike.  Also, 3 no-shows means a 90 day suspension.  Here is a link to the Santa Fe Hiking Group's "NO SHOWS ARE NOT COOL AND HAVE CONSEQUENCES" page.  I am not saying we copy this, but if being anonymously taken to task ruffles someone's feathers than I wonder how they would feel having to explain themselves on the "Wall of Explanation" before they could sign up for another hike.    Just saying.

Best regards,


On 3/14/[masked]:11 AM, Keith H Ferguson wrote:

I apologize to all non-offenders for the tone of the message and that you received it.  I would have preferred to send it to regular offenders but it would have taken me several hours to sort through attendance records and set up a separate mailing list to do so.  Personally I don't care that much if people show up or not but this was a good example of inconsideration for fellow hikers.  Appeals were made to the yes group to update their rsvp's as soon as possible because of the large waiting list and yet some still elected to keep someone else from enjoying a hike by staying on the yes list and not showing up.  I just don't understand this lack of courtesy.  Of course there are good reasons for not being able to make it to an event but the percent of offenders is much to high to be normal unavoidable situations.

If a reasonable minority feels that I was out of place, I have no problem with resigning and not organizing hikes in the future.

Keith Ferguson

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